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Old 04-18-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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According to crazy Bernie....universal healthcare in the long run will cost less and be more efficient...is he right?
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Old 04-18-2019, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Why not just answer the question? Lord knows you Canadians just looove to get your two cents in (BruSan here is up to a grand or so) on the topic of American healthcare. Why not answer a few specific questions about what makes your system better?
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Old 04-18-2019, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Why not just answer the question? Lord knows you Canadians just looove to get your two cents in (BruSan here is up to a grand or so) on the topic of American healthcare. Why not answer a few specific questions about what makes your system better?
Because then they'd have to face the truth on how inefficient managed health care is. Instead they make it about the poster.
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Old 04-18-2019, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Because then they'd have to face the truth on how inefficient managed health care is. Instead they make it about the poster.
Well, Americans pay MORE for their health care both out of pocket and as a country, and get lower health outcomes.

It's not Canadians who are not facing the truth. Look in the mirror.
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Old 04-18-2019, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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It’s pretty hard to get a definitive number on Canadian healthcare. It differs by province and of course, income. The one source who does provide an average cost is consistently poo-pooed by Canadians for being a conservative think tank. Fraser Institute says 2 adults and 2 kids earning 127k a year pay out an average of 12k a year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nationa...lic-health/amp
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Old 04-18-2019, 03:35 PM
 
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According to crazy Bernie....universal healthcare in the long run will cost less and be more efficient...is he right?
They don't really know because it's spread across everything...things cost more there.


When I drove a cab, I would always hear from Foriegners about how cheap stuff is here...they were amazed!


It's funny because it was during the whole ACA debacle. They would condescendingly chide me about the US's lack of universal healthcare. I'd just nod...then after getting over that they would be looking at all the billboards and ads and express amazment at how cheap things were here...that's when I'd hit them back with: That's because we aren't paying for "FREE" healthcare...they usually had a DERP moment.


Canadians were the worst with this...the Aussies and Brits were usually well into party mode to be bothered with that nonsense.
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Old 04-18-2019, 03:36 PM
 
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There are a number of articles on line that address this subject.It is very difficult to do a comparison because of the different benefits etc...and then each province has a different approach.
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Old 04-18-2019, 03:38 PM
 
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And yes -- economies of scale will come into play.

When you have a bigger market, you can spread out the costs more.

Canadians should pay more for health care given their smaller market..
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Old 04-18-2019, 03:50 PM
 
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Nova Scotia has a HST (harmonized sales tax) that combines PST (provincial sales tax) and GST at a rate of 15%. The highest in Canada. So gas is regulated heavily and adjusted weekly. Currently it’s a $1.32 a litre, 3.7 litre per one US gallon. Tobacco and alcohol is heavily taxed and that’s what pays for their socialized medicine.
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Old 04-18-2019, 03:57 PM
 
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HC expeditures per capita in Canada are about 1/2 of what they are here.

About 10% of GDP compared to the crazy 20% in US.
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