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Old 12-05-2018, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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The only thing "bullet" about this train is the name. There is no funding source for most of it, but don't worry. It will be paid for by Other People's Money.
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Governor Jerry Brown will leave office next month with a legacy of presiding over one of the biggest public policy failures in the state’s history. The California High-Speed Rail project began in 2008 at an estimated cost of about $39 billion to build high-speed train service between Northern California, Southern California, and the Central Valley. Despite the project having been significantly scaled back, the price tag for the down-sized system is likely approaching $100 billion. The first passengers to ride on the key Los Angeles–San Francisco route are projected to board no earlier than 2033, which is a four-year delay over and above previous delays. After California has spent roughly $5.4 billion, the bullet train is going nowhere fast.

https://www.hoover.org/research/afte...-going-nowhere
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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What a waste. I prefer to drive, but if you need to get there fast, just get on a plane! Besides, Cali looks like they will need those funds to take care of the flood of illegals headed their way.
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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Liberals don't care. They love their high taxes.
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:13 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Sounds more like a logistics problem than anything. It takes 20 years to build the track? DONT THINK SO.
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:15 AM
 
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The only thing "bullet" about this train is the name. There is no funding source for most of it, but don't worry. It will be paid for by Other People's Money.
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Governor Jerry Brown will leave office next month with a legacy of presiding over one of the biggest public policy failures in the state’s history. The California High-Speed Rail project began in 2008 at an estimated cost of about $39 billion to build high-speed train service between Northern California, Southern California, and the Central Valley. Despite the project having been significantly scaled back, the price tag for the down-sized system is likely approaching $100 billion. The first passengers to ride on the key Los Angeles–San Francisco route are projected to board no earlier than 2033, which is a four-year delay over and above previous delays. After California has spent roughly $5.4 billion, the bullet train is going nowhere fast.

https://www.hoover.org/research/afte...-going-nowhere
Governor "Moonbeam" strikes again!


Ca. voters didn't learn the FIRST time he was gov. add elected him AGAIN.


The DESERVE everything he has done.
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:30 AM
 
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Texas is planning a bullet train from Dallas to Houston. It is supposed to be privately paid for by investors, but I am besieged by doubts.



The drive between Dallas and Houston is 4 hours or so, while the train will take 90 minutes. I made the drive yesterday from Houston to Fort Worth in 5 hours, including stopping for lunch. The train will not really help me, for I would have to drive to downtown Dallas (45 minutes from west Fort Worth), park, get on the train, then disembark in Northwest Houston, just outside of 610 (I think too much to get the train to downtown). I would then need to rent a car, or else have our friends drive 30 minutes to pick us up (if not for said friends, I would never, ever go to Houston).



In this day of Skyping, tele-conferencing and the like, I see no real reason for business people to take such a train. Nevertheless, if it is privately funded, God speed to them.



California? I agree that it will probably be a financial disaster, but California is used to that.
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Sounds more like a logistics problem than anything. It takes 20 years to build the track? DONT THINK SO.

Building the track would likely take 5 years. However, all the legal maneuvering necessary to buy the land to build the track on will take at least 15 years. After all, this IS in California!
The current tracks used by Amtrak are not adequate for 100 MPH trains. Ripping them up, regrading, and laying high speed rails would also be time consuming and expensive, plus the amount of carbon dioxide spewed into the atmosphere would be incredible (again, this IS California, y'know...)
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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The only thing "bullet" about this train is the name. There is no funding source for most of it, but don't worry. It will be paid for by Other People's Money.
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Governor Jerry Brown will leave office next month with a legacy of presiding over one of the biggest public policy failures in the state’s history. The California High-Speed Rail project began in 2008 at an estimated cost of about $39 billion to build high-speed train service between Northern California, Southern California, and the Central Valley. Despite the project having been significantly scaled back, the price tag for the down-sized system is likely approaching $100 billion. The first passengers to ride on the key Los Angeles–San Francisco route are projected to board no earlier than 2033, which is a four-year delay over and above previous delays. After California has spent roughly $5.4 billion, the bullet train is going nowhere fast.

https://www.hoover.org/research/afte...-going-nowhere
Another Socialist boondoggle. That money would have been much better appropriated to other areas....like fixing roads & bridges.
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:58 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Building the track would likely take 5 years. However, all the legal maneuvering necessary to buy the land to build the track on will take at least 15 years. After all, this IS in California!
The current tracks used by Amtrak are not adequate for 100 MPH trains. Ripping them up, regrading, and laying high speed rails would also be time consuming and expensive, plus the amount of carbon dioxide spewed into the atmosphere would be incredible (again, this IS California, y'know...)
Environmental tree hugging red tape....
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:00 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Liberals don't care. They love their high taxes.
Liberals think light rail is the panacea to all our problems.


Gets illegal voters to the polls faster.
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