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Old 04-19-2019, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
The left: "Illegals don't get welfare!!"



Me: Told you.
They don't get welfare. They might partake of someone else's welfare. This law will do nothing. People here illegally are already not allowed to live in those apartments because they're not allowed to be in the country at all. And it isn't like Joe and Mary who allow their undocumented cousin to live with them are going to kick out the undocumented cousin and allow some other homeless person to live with them instead. This solves no problems at all.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:48 PM
 
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And illegals have kicked how many countless blacks from their own neighborhoods and monopolized business in their communities so do I care? HELL no! Bye!
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:49 PM
 
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To summarize this law: it basically kicks out illegals from their homes so they can still illegally live in this country. :eyeroll:

This is typical Republicanism: implement solutions that does NOT solve a problem and actually create new ones.

- Those families are citizens and already have Section 8. This change doesn't speed up the Section 8 enrollment in any way, shape, or form. This isn't "helping illegals over Americans", the Americans are already being helped, by way of Section 8.

- Now, should Section 8 tenants house illegal aliens? No, they shouldn't. But is this really a problem? What problem? The illegals who are living in homes of Section 8 tenants are already in this country. They've made it pass the border patrol and are already here. So this doesn't help anybody catch them. Again, what problem are the right-wingers trying to solve?

- So now the illegals (theoretically) have to move out of the Section 8 tenants' house and either live on the streets or rent their own place. This law basically just creates more homeless problem and housing demand. At a time when homelessness and rent in this country is already sky high in both red and blue states.

In other words: the same crowd who screams "Illegals are taking our jobs!" just created a new situation where "Illegals are taking our homes!"

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And your post illustrates the liberal disconnect between illegal immigration and incentives for illegals. The more benefits you provide illegals and easier you make it for them to live here, the more they will come. Maybe if they were kicked out of sec 8 homes and had a harder time finding housing they would go back home. I get your reasoning - since illegals are already here why not provide support and assistance to allow them to become a contributing member of our society. But what you don't get - or I should say refuse to get because you surely must understand - is that this creates a magnet for future illegals by promising them support and assistance to become a member of our society.

The fact that libs will be up in arms over this exposes the fallacy in their claims that illegals don't receive public welfare. If that were true then illegals would not be affected by a decision on how to render public welfare.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:51 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Impossible. We were told they weren’t getting any benefits.
odd, no?
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:52 PM
 
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The left: "Illegals don't get welfare!!"



Me: Told you.

Exactly. How does a decision on how to render public welfare affect illegal aliens if illegal aliens are not receiving public welfare?
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Florida
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Obama brought in 1000s of illegals calling them refugees. He said they would return to their countries in time.


He lied.



He handed them free government housing, free medical, free food and in most cases a monthly paycheck for doing nothing.


Many refugees are abusing the section 8 because Obama fixed it so they would be well taken care of and become citizens so they can vote for democrats. How do you think we got the 3 moronic anti American ladies in congress?
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:57 PM
 
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Obama brought in 1000s of illegals calling them refugees. He said they would return to their countries in time.


He lied.



He handed them free government housing, free medical, free food and in most cases a monthly paycheck for doing nothing.


Many refugees are abusing the section 8 because Obama fixed it so they would be well taken care of and become citizens so they can vote for democrats. How do you think we got the 3 moronic anti American ladies in congress?
Words have meanings. You can't be a refugee and also here illegally. Being a refugee means that you have gone through the legal process of entering and staying in the country. Also, Trump has allowed for 30,000 refugees to enter in 2019. Here are some facts you can read so you understand how it works. https://immigrationforum.org/article...-resettlement/
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:02 PM
 
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Exactly. How does a decision on how to render public welfare affect illegal aliens if illegal aliens are not receiving public welfare?
watch leftists twist themselves into knots trying to get out of this one
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:08 PM
 
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https://kagdaily.com/2019/04/ben-car...icans-instead/




From The Washington Examiner: “We need to make certain our scarce public resources help those who are legally entitled to it,” department Secretary Ben Carson said in a statement. “Given the overwhelming demand for our programs, fairness requires that we devote ourselves to legal residents who have been waiting, some for many years, for access to affordable housing.”
The new rule would disallow illegal immigrants from living in houses that receive subsidies from the department regardless of whether they were the direct recipient or not. Previously, rules allowed illegal immigrants to benefit from subsides by living with relatives who were citizens.
“This proposal gets to the whole point Cher was making in her tweet that the President retweeted. We’ve got our own people to house and we need to take care of our citizens,” an official in the Trump administration told the Daily Caller.
Ask Ben if he has addressed how those folks for there in the first place.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:41 PM
 
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And your post illustrates the liberal disconnect between illegal immigration and incentives for illegals. The more benefits you provide illegals and easier you make it for them to live here, the more they will come. Maybe if they were kicked out of sec 8 homes and had a harder time finding housing they would go back home. I get your reasoning - since illegals are already here why not provide support and assistance to allow them to become a contributing member of our society. But what you don't get - or I should say refuse to get because you surely must understand - is that this creates a magnet for future illegals by promising them support and assistance to become a member of our society.

The fact that libs will be up in arms over this exposes the fallacy in their claims that illegals don't receive public welfare. If that were true then illegals would not be affected by a decision on how to render public welfare.

There is absolutely no harder place to find housing in this nation than the state of California. Housing is the most expensive and in short supply. If hard-to-find housing would discourage illegal immigration in any way, shape, or form; it would have already happened in CA.

Section 8 is just a very tiny subset of where illegals find housing. It won't move the needle in illegal immigration. Why don't the right-wing do something practical? Why is it always putting a lipstick on a pig and calling it a solution??

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