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Old 04-21-2019, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The lady I was involved with who was a CNA worked nights. She always came home exhausted. Some nights it might be quieter if there weren't as many patients and the ones that were there were medicated and quiet but rounds to check vitals , empty urinals etc still had to be done so she had to keep moving all shift.


Nights like that might be easier on the RNs but it didn't change much for the CNAs.
I don't think you know what RNs do.
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:59 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I don't think you know what RNs do.

Oh I do. All the charting, doing report, passing meds, contacting doctors needs be doing IVs etc. The CNAs just have a more physically demanding job and I was exposed to that every day for a long time. Besides I don't get where your inferring that I was bagging on RNs. Not even.
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Old 04-21-2019, 11:28 PM
 
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Another thing that goes on is the nurse to patient ratio is not adequate, nor is the CNA to patient ratio. But then the state comes in and staffing is much better.
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Old 04-21-2019, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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ACLS isn't rocket science.


You're not going to wow me with a run of the mill code. Especially in a hospital. I was a paramedic before becoming a nurse; try working a code, with only your partner and with no doctor to tell you what to do on the floor of some disgusting trailer while the patient's kids and husband looks on. Try standing at a car that has crashed, unable to help the patient inside because they're pinned, waiting on the fire department to make the scene so they can cut the car apart. Try handling a respiratory distress call that's bordering on respiratory arrest because the ****ing nursing home nurse thought bumping the O2 on the cannula up to 4lpm from the patient's normal 2lpm would work.


Don't tell me nursing is the hardest job in the world. It isn't, nor is it even close. I know this, because I can compare what I do now to what I've done. You know what nursing is? It's a completely controlled clinical environment with very little actual responsibility for deciding the outcome and treatment of patients. I didn't say it couldn't be a difficult job. What I said was it's not that difficult. It's not horrible physically, and it's certainly not bad mentally.
So, if you loved being a paramedic why did you become a nurse? It appears the nursing profession doesn’t suit you. You don’t like being told what to do either. There are ways to make doctors listen to you but it takes time.

I think you miss the autonomy you had in the field. I don’t think you’d even be happy running a code with another nurse, and a respiratory tech in an ER-no doc. That’s right. There were times we only had three docs on and we had 4 sometimes 5 codes. One time, we were so short staffed, we had to get help from the FD.

Why don’t you try to get into medical school? You have the right attitude.
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Old 04-22-2019, 12:24 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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I haven’t worked since youngest son’s (15) autism regression (age 2) but come on!

The patients were sicker; some should have been in the ICU with a 1:1 ratio but were on the floors with 6-7:1. Patients barely stable sent home so we could plop another one in the bed before it was even cold.

More paperwork & protocols. Short staffed. Higher patient load. Administration marginalizing experienced nurses to replace them with new grads who were more modable & cost less.

Nursing means you eat standing up & can hold your bladder for 12+ hours.
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Old 04-22-2019, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I want to go out like my grandpa did. Don’t see a doctor your whole life and then for the first time ever go to the doctor with an ailment and die a week later at home at 90 years old.

I’ve made it almost 58 years following his program and so far so good.
We should all be so lucky.
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I haven’t worked since youngest son’s (15) autism regression (age 2) but come on!

The patients were sicker; some should have been in the ICU with a 1:1 ratio but were on the floors with 6-7:1. Patients barely stable sent home so we could plop another one in the bed before it was even cold.

More paperwork & protocols. Short staffed. Higher patient load. Administration marginalizing experienced nurses to replace them with new grads who were more modable & cost less.

Nursing means you eat standing up & can hold your bladder for 12+ hours.
Exactly.
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Old 04-22-2019, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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https://ktla.com/2019/04/20/washingt...nt-of-the-day/

I wouldn't say they play cards a considerable amount of the day, but having been in a few hospitals many of them do seem to just sit around and talk while ignoring their patients.

Many older nurses seem to be true professionals at their craft, but I would venture to guess many millennial nurses just get into it for the big money.

https://nurse.org/articles/make-over...-travel-nurse/

When people hear about $19,000 paychecks for two weeks work, many who otherwise would not get into nurses end up becoming nurses just for the money and it seems as though they can treat patients horribly in many cases and not have to worry about it.

Why would a state consider a law mandating uninterrupted breaks/ rest periods for nurses?

If this is an issue, why wouldn’t this be between employer and union?
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Old 04-22-2019, 02:23 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I haven’t worked since youngest son’s (15) autism regression (age 2) but come on!

The patients were sicker; some should have been in the ICU with a 1:1 ratio but were on the floors with 6-7:1. Patients barely stable sent home so we could plop another one in the bed before it was even cold.

More paperwork & protocols. Short staffed. Higher patient load. Administration marginalizing experienced nurses to replace them with new grads who were more modable & cost less.

Nursing means you eat standing up & can hold your bladder for 12+ hours.

I get the barely stable and sent home thing. I was admitted last year for an illness that had me barely able to walk. I was in for 2 days while they tried to figure it out. The doctor comes in on the morning of the second day and tells me my labs all looked great so he was discharging me. I still wasn't feeling any better but he insisted that my labs were fine so just go home ad take it easy.


So, home I went. I was home for a little under 12 hours ad had to call an ambulance to come get me.The doctor in the ER ran labs straight off and comes in to tell me he's admitting me because I was so dehydrated my kidneys were failing. So I was discharged because my labs were fine but in that short period of time I was home I got so dried out my kidneys were shutting down? As I think about it I only received one bag of fluid in the time I was in.


I don't get it but as you say send one out get one in on the same sheets before they get cold. From my nursing friends and from personal experience I've seen and been told of the levels of frustration nursing staff goes through when they know a doctor is wrong and having to deal with the "I'm the doctor you do what I say. End of story." attitude. Some doctors are exceptionally hard on nursing staff just because they can be. Again I've seen it and heard about it from nurse friends.


Nursing is no cakewalk of a profession.
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Why would a state consider a law mandating uninterrupted breaks/ rest periods for nurses?

If this is an issue, why wouldn’t this be between employer and union?
Many nurses are not unionized.
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