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Old 06-30-2019, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Which locale (city, state, industry, company) has more radical egalitarianism?
The key words "merit" and "egalitarian" are opposites, if someone understand their true meaning.

Among "conservatives" it is assumed that Silicon Valley has the most radial egalitarians, leftists, liberals, Marxists...etc. Breitbart News regularly publishes articles on that. Google became infamous for their intentions of forcing more diversity, while in another supposedly conservative place they already had far more skin-based-hiring.
But is it really true? Is it situational? Is it just different flavors of the same vanilla?
I run into several people who claim to be conservative, but all for egalitarian and anti meritocratic stuff. From the other side, I also read a NYT article where some leftist guy claimed that they are the protectors of meritocracy while accusing conservatives of being against meritocracy. Are they right or wrong? It might add to the confusion that many people don't understand what "merit" is, or what "equal" means. Some people confuse credentialism or personal connections with merit, others think merit is when someone pleases the mob, or failing with their projects while successfully complying to ISO9001, or staying in the office for long hours every day regardless of actual work load, or being on board with group-think, or having $200k degrees... instead of ability and will to create value aka "Price’s Law".

So, is California really the most leftist state in the Union? Maybe it is Virginia or DC or who knows.
Is Google really the most egalitarian company? Maybe it's Gillette of Kellogg's or who knows.
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Old 06-30-2019, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Which locale (city, state, industry, company) has more radical egalitarianism?
The key words "merit" and "egalitarian" are opposites, if someone understand their true meaning.

Among "conservatives" it is assumed that Silicon Valley has the most radial egalitarians, leftists, liberals, Marxists...etc. Breitbart News regularly publishes articles on that. Google became infamous for their intentions of forcing more diversity, while in another supposedly conservative place they already had far more skin-based-hiring.
But is it really true? Is it situational? Is it just different flavors of the same vanilla?
I run into several people who claim to be conservative, but all for egalitarian and anti meritocratic stuff. From the other side, I also read a NYT article where some leftist guy claimed that they are the protectors of meritocracy while accusing conservatives of being against meritocracy. Are they right or wrong? It might add to the confusion that many people don't understand what "merit" is, or what "equal" means. Some people confuse credentialism or personal connections with merit, others think merit is when someone pleases the mob, or failing with their projects while successfully complying to ISO9001, or staying in the office for long hours every day regardless of actual work load, or being on board with group-think, or having $200k degrees... instead of ability and will to create value aka "Price’s Law".

So, is California really the most leftist state in the Union? Maybe it is Virginia or DC or who knows.
Is Google really the most egalitarian company? Maybe it's Gillette of Kellogg's or who knows.
Silicon Valley is precisely the opposite-it has the greatest number of highly motivated, selfish, self-promoting and greedy people in the nation, or at least close to it (Wall Street might take number 1). But people go to work there to enrich themselves.
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Old 07-01-2019, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Florida
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That's what I'm saying.
SV is either self identified or identified by others, incorrectly as an egalitarian system. But why?
I don't support egalitarianism, but that is a different story.
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