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Old 04-24-2019, 07:42 AM
 
Location: USA
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What's the conservative, small-government response to homelessness?
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Old 04-24-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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The majority are drug addicts. Studies have shown those places that have legalized Marijuana have seen an increase in homelessness and the use of more drugs in general. Addiction is a real problem these states will need to address.

It reminds me when the states that made gambling legal had to start programs for gambling addicts because they grew rapidly.

It's the domino effect.
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Old 04-24-2019, 07:56 AM
 
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The thread is about the homeless. Why is it done in the open? There is nowhere to keep simply homeless users. Go ahead and promote the idea of higher taxes to pay for more prisons. See how far you get.

Solutions that are never going to happen are not solutions.
People like you believe most homeless are “good people down on their luck” and are entitled to “permanent supportive housing”

Criminal drug riddled street zombies who have burned every bridge with family and friends are not “good people down on their luck” and if they want a free house it’s called jail and not a nice apartment for them to trash and terrorize nearby neighbors.

Our only hope is this eventually gets so bad and society gets so angry that the pendulum swings the other way. However at that point the rage level will drive the passage of ruthless laws that will be far more harsh on these people than if we would have just dealt with this correctly now (law/order/jail).
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:02 AM
 
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We have places where the mentally ill go.

The mentally ill still have the same Constitutional protections as the rest of the people and you can't forcibly hold someone that is not a risk to others simply because they decide to live in a tent.
This is a problem and the law should be changed.

Also, street zombie terrorists are a threat to others, soooo...
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:11 AM
 
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YEP - and how do those "working class neighborhoods" really feel about be a dumping ground?
Nothing shows distain more for Tax Paying worker citizens more than dumping the homeless into their parks and neighborhoods.
Are they actually doing this dumping of humans? If people can be so easily moved, they can be re-dumped to more affluent areas which can afford to give them more change.



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Old 04-24-2019, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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This is a problem and the law should be changed.
Thank-you. That may have a huge negative impact on the ACLU, Thank-you, again.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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Don't you just love walking out onto your porch to have your morning coffee and seeing a homeless man taking a dump on your lawn?
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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We have places where the mentally ill go.

The mentally ill still have the same Constitutional protections as the rest of the people and you can't forcibly hold someone that is not a risk to others simply because they decide to live in a tent.
Where do the mentally ill go?

I am thinking of a massive low rise apartment complex in a nice suburban area. About 5 years ago, it was acquired by an investment fund that made the business decision to form an alliance with the behavioral health department of a local hospital. It now houses a majority of mentally/ emotionally disabled tenants with rents paid by a combination of federal and state funds. They are able to walk to outpatient facilities at the hospital.

There’s a nice park in the area with a huge playground. The disabled monopolize the park with their presence.

Schizophrenia is the most common disability. Presumably, all are medicated crept many choose not to take their medications. What was once decent housing for self paying renters, now has turned into public areas where feces is common. Someone or another is always going off the rails and Police are involved. The sounds, TVs, music and screaming, are deafening.

Come summer, the drama moves to the outdoor pool. Alcohol flows. People openly smoke medical marijuana. Fights ensue. Poop is tossed about. Someone sets a fire. And life goes on.

My point here is that you can take some of the people off the streets and when you do, their issues don’t go away. Medication, taken as directed, MAY reduce symptoms. And maybe, not.

It is obviously cheaper to house these sick people in private properties than an institution with around the clock supervision and security.

The property values of the nice single family homes in the area have declined as the number of disabled tenants in this complex has increased. Most buyers don’t want to put their families in close proximity to several hundred disabled people, when they can buy elsewhere.

Sad that some people prefer to view homelessness through a partisan lens.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Don't you just love walking out onto your porch to have your morning coffee and seeing a homeless man taking a dump on your lawn?
Or maybe a group of sheltered homeless living next door taking a dump on your lawn, because well, why not..
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:18 AM
 
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People like you believe most homeless are “good people down on their luck” and are entitled to “permanent supportive housing”
I'm not interested in your generalizations.
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