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Old 04-23-2019, 06:49 PM
 
Location: London
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Looks like they are doing better under President Trump.

“Capital punishment is a legal penalty in Saudi Arabia. The country performed at least 158 executions in 2015,[1] at least 154 executions in 2016,[2] and at least 146 executions in 2017.[3]“ By 2024 President Trump may have it down to 100 or so.
Are you under the impression that Trump is the president of Saudi Arabia?
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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The OP said this.
“I am NOT INTERESTED in bashing Muslims. But this Saudi government used barbaric beheadings in order to strengthen its hold on power. In the past strong US disapproval might have moderated their behavior, but under Trump’s weak leadership, they are free to execute/murder fellow Muslim believers.”
This is my opinion, and I stand by what I posted.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:48 PM
 
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As opposed to Obama’s weak leadership?

Saudi Arabia: Mass Execution Largest Since 1980 - 47 executed in this one event alone.

Trump:
Executions in 2018
149

Executions in 2017
146

Obama:
Executions in 2016
153

Executions in 2015
158

Executions in 2014
90

Executions in 2013
79

Executions in 2012
At least 79

Executions in 2011
At least 82

Executions in 2010
At least 26

Executions in 2009
At least 69
Trump and Kushner made personal money deals with the Saudis and Trump looked the other way and actually sided with the Saudis when they butchered a journalist alive. Have you an equivalent for that?
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Muslims killing people-at least this time it was "criminals" and not people celebrating Easter. It's kind of their thing.
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...ecution-spree/

I am NOT INTERESTED in bashing Muslims. But this Saudi government used barbaric beheadings in order to strengthen its hold on power. In the past strong US disapproval might have moderated their behavior, but under Trump’s weak leadership, they are free to execute/murder fellow Muslim believers.

I hope, at the very least, this barbaric behavior makes Saudi Arabia a pariah among nations. However because of widespread dependence on oil, probably they will be given a pass.

This is capital punishment without the moderation of law. It is the extension of a government’s existential struggle. How frightened they must be of losing power, to murder their own citizens because they are a religious minority.

How shameful.
I worked a few years in Saudi and they discriminate big time against the Shia....they also hate Iran (because it's Shia)....so yeah, it sux to be in Saudi if you aren't Sunni or a Westerner.
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:28 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Sunni and Shia have been killing each other for 1400 years, they going to stop now
As far as Trump supporting them, he's doing nothing different than Obama, Bush and Clinton before him. At least Trump is more peaceful than Bush in Iraq, and Obama in Libya/Syria, Where hundreds of thousands of civilians died and millions left homeless. It is nice having a more peaceful president for once. Trump "making America great and the world more peaceful"

Trump didn't bow to the Saudi king at least like Obama did. An American president showing supplication to a barbaric monarch. And they call Trump weak and cozy with the Saudis?
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by silibran View Post
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...ecution-spree/

I am NOT INTERESTED in bashing Muslims. But this Saudi government used barbaric beheadings in order to strengthen its hold on power. In the past strong US disapproval might have moderated their behavior, but under Trump’s weak leadership, they are free to execute/murder fellow Muslim believers.

I hope, at the very least, this barbaric behavior makes Saudi Arabia a pariah among nations. However because of widespread dependence on oil, probably they will be given a pass.

This is capital punishment without the moderation of law. It is the extension of a government’s existential struggle. How frightened they must be of losing power, to murder their own citizens because they are a religious minority.

How shameful.
I wonder if 'Murica sent them weaponry to murder those people? I guess killing innocents in Yemen isn't good enough. We need to sell the Saudis more weapons in order to make more money.
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Trump didn't bow to the Saudi king at least like Obama did. An American president showing supplication to a barbaric monarch. And they call Trump weak and cozy with the Saudis?
Trump sold the Saudis tons of weaponry which they use to murder innocents. We used to do it ourselves but now contract it out. I guess it's more civilized to do it. Weak? dunno Sleazy and immoral? No doubt.
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:02 PM
 
Location: USA
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Trump sold the Saudis tons of weaponry which they use to murder innocents. We used to do it ourselves but now contract it out. I guess it's more civilized to do it. Weak? dunno Sleazy and immoral? No doubt.
Trump did? Barrack Hussien Farrakhan got us into Yemen, after he killed 10s of thousand of Muslims in Libya and supplied weapons to ISIS in Syria. Great way to treat his own people
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Trump did?
Trump supplies the Saudis. You didn't know that? lol

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Barrack Hussien Farrakhan got us into Yemen, after he killed 10s of thousand of Muslims in Libya and supplied weapons to ISIS in Syria. Great way to treat his own people
Agreed. Obama is a POS of getting us involved. Trump is a POS for doing the same thing.
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