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The Kansas decision prevents the state from enforcing a 2015 law that could have greatly limited second trimester abortions. But even worse for abortion opponents, the ruling clears the way for legal challenges to a string of abortion restrictions approved in recent years by state lawmakers under past Republican governors.
The court said vague language protecting "equal and inalienable rights" in the first section of the Kansas Constitution's Bill of Rights grants a "natural right of personal autonomy" that includes the right to "control one's own body." Because that right is independent of the U.S. Constitution, Kansas courts could strike down restrictions that have been upheld by the federal courts.
"This right allows a woman to make her own decisions regarding her body, health, family formation, and family life — decisions that can include whether to continue a pregnancy," the court's unsigned majority opinion said.
When will state legislatures quit wasting money by passing laws that they know won't hold up in court? I guess as long as churches try to run the country, it is never.
When will state legislatures quit wasting money by passing laws that they know won't hold up in court? I guess as long as churches try to run the country, it is never.
You mean with things like bullet taxes?
Never forget that most of the time the only reason for legislation is grandstanding for your base even though it will never go anywhere. Both parties do it. Other than abortion and trying to do an end-around on the 2nd amendment can you think of another example from both parties?
It's the exact same Kansas Supreme Court that told Kansas legislators, the part of the government that has the enumerated Constitutional authority and requirement to pass all expenditures based on the legislature's purview, that their approved school funding was unconstitutional, simply because it wasn't enough, as opined by the court. This nonsense started under a previous democrat Governor, Kathleen Sebelius, and she told her State AG to NOT allow the decision to get to the federal courts, much less SCOTUS. Now we have another democrat Governor doing the very same with this.
I have no dog in the fight on abortion because until it is decided by SCOTUS when "life" begins, there cannot be a meaningful debate on abortion. Right wing bible thumping nuts want ALL abortion to be outlawed and left wing nuts want abortion to be legal even AFTER childbirth.
Abortion is a waste of debate energy until SCOTUS defines when life begins. PERIOD.
But then again, the last two paragraphs are only MY opinion, for what it's worth.
Never forget that most of the time the only reason for legislation is grandstanding for your base even though it will never go anywhere. Both parties do it. Other than abortion and trying to do an end-around on the 2nd amendment can you think of another example from both parties?
How about the Texas legislator who is trying to make masturbating a crime?
How about the Texas legislator who is trying to make masturbating a crime?
Yeah, when you get down to the state legislatures all it takes is one crackpot and voila.
However, it does go on at every level.
I personally love it when some city council announces something like condemning Israel or declaring the town a nuclear weapons free zone...those are funny.
It's the exact same Kansas Supreme Court that told Kansas legislators, the part of the government that has the enumerated Constitutional authority and requirement to pass all expenditures based on the legislature's purview, that their approved school funding was unconstitutional, simply because it wasn't enough, as opined by the court. This nonsense started under a previous democrat Governor, Kathleen Sebelius, and she told her State AG to NOT allow the decision to get to the federal courts, much less SCOTUS. Now we have another democrat Governor doing the very same with this.
I have no dog in the fight on abortion because until it is decided by SCOTUS when "life" begins, there cannot be a meaningful debate on abortion. Right wing bible thumping nuts want ALL abortion to be outlawed and left wing nuts want abortion to be legal even AFTER childbirth.
Abortion is a waste of debate energy until SCOTUS defines when life begins. PERIOD.
But then again, the last two paragraphs are only MY opinion, for what it's worth.
I wouldn't mind abortion being legal after childbirth
Seriously. Sometimes newborns have serious developmental issues that will cripple them throughout the rest of their lives that went undetected during the developmental process. It's perfectly rational to look at it like, the newborns can't make their own decisions, so it's up to the parents to decide what's best for them...so long as they do have some kind of serious, lifelong condition, in my opinion.
Whether we agree with that or not though...it's a perspective that makes sense.
What's really sad though, is that the complete banning of abortion that the crackpots on the other side want makes zero sense. It harms the parents, and the children, and society in general. Those types of crackpots are the bonkers ones people should be concerned about.
The other side...the side that wants late term abortion legalized everywhere, just, at most, have a different, through respectable, moral code than some of society. The side that wants abortion banned, on the other hand, just want to destroy the world.
We can have a meaningful debate about abortion now...and if it's a sensible debate it should have nothing to do with when life begins. It needs to have to do with the capacity of the fetus to feel pain, or anything else, and risks to the mother, and maybe conditions such as birth defects or poverty that might make the parents see an abortion as the best route. When "life" forms is just meaningless semantics. Life has value because it can feel and experience. Life's ability to feel and experience, and what it may feel and experience, should be the factors we use when considering what kinds of abortion, or euthanasia of newborns, we allow.
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