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Old 05-07-2019, 01:43 PM
 
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That's impossible. Demwits have said all illegals are better people than Americans are. This must be fake news!
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Old 05-07-2019, 01:45 PM
 
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The rape wouldn't have happened if the rapist hadn't been allowed into the country. I guess the girl should be grateful that he didn't kill her after the rape.
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Old 05-07-2019, 01:45 PM
 
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What I meant is, what does that whole second section (I requote it below) mean - what qualifies under this exception?
It later goes onto say this:
So it's left in the physician's discretion, it seems, but it does define some examples, which include some pretty serious in the moment life or death conditions. The "may" in there, about MS and diabetes, is flimsy. So basically, it means emergency situations where there is a condition affecting the mother.

It still isn't really that clear whether a pregnant 11 year old will qualify under this exemption. I don't think she would, without some diagnosed condition. I can see arguments made either way, though, that the state and size of her young body itself is enough to put her at serious risk. The possibility that a child could be raped and wind up pregnant seemingly was not even considered in this law. Shows how much these idiots know. The courts may have to decide eventually, if this law stands.

They probably passed this disgusting law in an attempt to overturn Roe/Casey with the new Court. These calculated sick people know exactly what they're doing, because this is probably unduly burdensome under Casey, to restrict abortion to before around 6 weeks. They're trying to get it all overturned. So either this law gets overturned or the whole abortion precedent in the US is overturned. Women and raped girls are used as pawns in a political game. This is why this stuff is not the state/government's business. They have no business playing games with people's lives and medical procedures.
You're right and they have made the rules for a medical exception so difficult that no physician will be willing to perform an abortion, period. And I doubt if you will find very many who will perform an abortion when they can't detect a fetal heartbeat either. The goal is to get this overturned so they can get the matter in front of SCOTUS and get rid of Roe v Wade. For all the folks cheerleading this abomination of a bill I hope they realize that passing legislation like this is a slippery slope and if they get away with this God know what they will outlaw in the future.
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Old 05-07-2019, 01:47 PM
 
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Haven't read that Ohio law, but does it allow for the health/life of the mother? 11 years old giving birth (and from rape) can affect her health; both physical and mental. Very, very young. Even if obviously past puberty, she is still growing herself.
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Old 05-07-2019, 01:47 PM
 
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The rape wouldn't have happened if the rapist hadn't been allowed into the country. I guess the girl should be grateful that he didn't kill her after the rape.
Was he really "allowed in the country"? That's kind of like saying that someone who steals your TV when you're not home was "allowed" in your house.
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Old 05-07-2019, 01:50 PM
 
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Right wingers want raped women to be forced to bear the child of a rapist so they can force everyone to follow their religious beliefs. And as they implement their religious laws, they make all kinds of wild conspiracy claims about how sharia law is taking over. That is just a smokescreen while they work their religious laws onto the books while accusing another religion of trying to do what they are successfully doing.
Indeed, it sure is starting to sound like The Handmaid's Tale, isn't it?
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Old 05-07-2019, 02:00 PM
 
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Abortion is obviously not a form of birth control, but there are certain instances where itís warranted and this is one of them. Youíre seriously going to force an 11-12 year old girl to give birth? The rape is bad enough. Literally forcing her and future girls her age to give birth after being raped and/or through incest will be so psychologically damaging the girl will never recover from it.
You give too little credit to the bond between mother and
child regardless of method of inception, deformities or the
slew of other manifestations.

Celebrate the child.
Support the mother.
Arrest the perpetrator.
Sounds Right to me.....................
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Old 05-07-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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Haven't read that Ohio law, but does it allow for the health/life of the mother? 11 years old giving birth (and from rape) can affect her health; both physical and mental. Very, very young. Even if obviously past puberty, she is still growing herself.
Apparently there is no exemption for children who are raped. It's ridiculous that the pro-forced birthers try to convince us they care about children, when it's certainly obvious they don't care about children who are raped. Tough luck for you, your rape fetus is more important than you are, little Suzy. Now buck up and have that baby so you can get back to 5th grade math!

Some children are hitting puberty at 8 or 9 years old. Guess they'll just have to suck it up and become parents before they are a decade old, because a bunch of stupid old men in Ohio demand it.

This girl is being raped a second time by the state. But who cares about her. That damn fetus is all that matters.

Until it's through the birth canal, anyway. After that...meh.
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Old 05-07-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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Apparently there is no exemption for children who are raped. It's ridiculous that the pro-forced birthers try to convince us they care about children, when it's certainly obvious they don't care about children who are raped. Tough luck for you, your rape fetus is more important than you are, little Suzy. Now buck up and have that baby so you can get back to 5th grade math!

Some children are hitting puberty at 8 or 9 years old. Guess they'll just have to suck it up and become parents before they are a decade old, because a bunch of stupid old men in Ohio demand it.

This girl is being raped a second time by the state. But who cares about her. That damn fetus is all that matters.

Until it's through the birth canal, anyway. After that...meh.
Yep, and if this same thing happened to a child of one of the lawmakers that voted for this law, you know what they would do. They would take their child to another state and have the procedure done. They will preach until it effects them or one they love.
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Old 05-07-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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You give too little credit to the bond between mother and
child regardless of method of inception, deformities or the
slew of other manifestations.

Celebrate the child.
Support the mother.
Arrest the perpetrator.
Sounds Right to me.....................
MISTER Retired, you know nothing about the bond between a mother and a child. Not a damn thing. Few if any women will bond with the spawn of a man who brutally, forcibly raped her. Every time she looks at that kid she will remember the brutality and fear and pain and suffering she endured which brought it into the world.

No, MISTER Retired, you do not speak for a single woman anywhere, so stop pretending you do.
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