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View Poll Results: Should a 10 or 11 year old rape victim be forced to give birth?
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No 18 100.00%
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Nanny Goat View Post
No, but they're ignorant then. An 11 year old would not bear the whole ordeal well, including afterwards being expected to care for a child when she's a child. Abuse and even a worse outcome to the child would not be unrealistic. Right, that law is simple minded at best, which is where we seem to be at w/ something like this.
I really think they just don't care. They have one agenda, and it's to get federal abortion precedent overturned and control handed back to the states so they can ban it entirely. They don't care about this 11 year old or anyone like her.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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Go to a neighboring state that doesn’t have a heartbeat bill?
That would be very Republican, wouldn't it? "This law can be easily circumvented if you have the resources to travel and pay medical expenses in a different state. We're certainly not out to make life difficult for upper-middle-class and above."
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:38 AM
 
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Strange how these laws don't account for the mental anguish suffered as if that isn't a threat.
It's not about the welfare of the constituents, it's about control.

Imagine what happens to a healthy 16-year-old rape victim. "Too bad, little girl, but you're in good health. If you thought you would start regaining control of your life and your body when he rolled off of you, well - sucks to be you." It's a horrifying law.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:39 AM
 
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Strange how these laws don't account for the mental anguish suffered as if that isn't a threat.
The law specifically states that mental health issues affecting the mother are not an exception to the law. I'm telling you, the pro-life Taliban went all out here, it's the same law that has been passed in 5 other states that I have crossed off my bucket list of ever visiting; Mississippi, Kentucky, Iowa, North Dakota and Georgia.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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This 11 year old child is a victim of sexual assault. The choice of what to do with the pregnancy is between the victim, her parents, and her doctors. It's my understanding that the Ohio law is circumvented in cases such as rape or incest.
There is no rape exemption in the Ohio law.
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Old 05-08-2019, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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The question was really to understand a late term healthy baby scenario. We hear that there are times when a baby must be killed for the health of the mother. Sure there are times a pregnancy must be terminated, but what is a situation that requires an abortion as opposed to a c-section in late term maternal health reasons?
The "kill a healthy late term fetus" is entirely a figment of the antiabortionists' imagination. No obstetrician will do it.

If the mother needs to be delivered, it is done, either by induction of labor or Cesarean section, whichever is indicated for the individual situation.

After delivery the baby is handed off to a pediatrician who does whatever can be done for it. In the early third trimester some babies are too immature and will not survive despite intensive care. Other babies may have been affected by whatever maternal condition prompted the delivery. They may be too sick to be saved. If the baby dies, the NY law that kicked off the outrage of the antiabortionists protects the obstetrician from being accused of doing an illegal abortion when there was never any intent to "abort" the fetus.
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Old 05-08-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Just when you thought that Ohio had won the award for legislative idiocy, they are going to double down on this issue with a new piece of legislation (and no, this is not from the onion)

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The bill would ban non-therapeutic abortions that include "drugs or devices used to prevent the implantation of a fertilized ovum.” Birth control pills, IUD’s and other methods of birth control like that – the bill states that any birth control that could act to stop a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus is considered an abortion under this bill

The bill also speaks to coverage of ectopic or tubal pregnancies where the fertilized egg attaches outside of the womb. “Part of that treatment would be removing that embryo from the fallopian tube and reinserting it in the uterus so that is defined as not an abortion under this bill,"

It will ban insurance from covering popular methods of birth control.
https://www.statenews.org/post/ohio-...f2DG4t-0olmI6I
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Old 05-08-2019, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Well, when the State owns your body things like this happen.

Keep voting folks...that's all I know. I'm sure the right people will get in there and control bodies more along the lines to your personal liking if you keep on hitting the ballot box.

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Old 05-08-2019, 01:34 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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"Ohio man" is an interesting way to word that.
Yes....what part of Mexico is "Ohio" in?
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Old 05-08-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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Yes....what part of Mexico is "Ohio" in?
Would you have felt better if it was a homegrown American who raped this little girl? Because we have many of them here already.

Yeah, let's focus on that instead of how a bunch of stupid old men want to force a child to give birth.

Try not to make your agenda so transparent.
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