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Old 05-10-2019, 01:22 PM
 
Location: MS
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I have not watched the video yet, but your statement actually sounds like what I have heard from other places. It's really easy for folks to sit on their high horse and blame the mentally ill, which is such a vaque label to place on a person. If you have anxiety, even somewhat mild, you have s mental illness. So does someone with schizophrenia. Thing is that even the person with schizophrenia is more likely to be a victim rather than a perpetrator of violence.

Uncontrolled anger is a real issue with most mass shooters. Anger is not considered a mental illness. Maybe it should be, I don't know.

People also use terms they don't really think through like psychopath or insanity. And then they just blame all un shootings on the "mentally ill" and never seek to find out more about mental illness.
The video doesn't blame the mentally ill. In fact it states that very few are violent out of those violent ones, very few have the capacity to plan a mass shooting.


Mass shooters are usually sane. They have just given up on living and let their anger eat away at them.
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Old 05-10-2019, 04:44 PM
 
Location: USA
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We had another home invasion by multiple attackers near me recently, and in a "nice neighborhood". They had no means to defend themselves.
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:19 PM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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and many are mentally unstable. again what has changed in the last 35 years?

Angry and resentful kids back then didnt do this.
I think one thing is to do with violent video games that made guns and shooting seem more familiar or commonplace. Over time, using devices and the Internet accelerated access to having exposure, meeting others, being rejected, being popular or not, which likely contributes to problems. There is more of a focus and pressure upon physical attractiveness, sharing photos. (I recall younger women discussing in the relationships section, how it was "just a revolving door" meeting online, that if it didn't work out for a guy, he "just clicks on the next opportunity" - for sex). It's appears even worse, for those attempting to develop a relationship, than it once was. Anyway...

I've not seen yet if it was referred to, but recalling the student having shot those in Santa Barbara, CA had recorded his feelings beforehand in an online video about "being rejected by the 'hot' girls", being the basis for his retaliation. I believe his divorced mother had a slew of guns, so he had direct access to.

Again, if this guy had such self-esteem and anger issues, it could have been worked on, but many don't take to the idea of getting psychological help. (Actually, he may have been seeing someone, I don't recall). I would believe that he wasn't okay a long while before and the rejection just put him over the edge. I believe he came from wealth, too.

Look at all the young people having become suicidal. There are other young people who will develop well despite feeling less attractive, not having "the girl of his dreams", having lots of money. They may have had more emotional support, care or ego-boosting while growing up. (Of course, there are different personalities in general).

It is a real problem and I feel that it is rooted in how a person develops, what they are exposed to or environment they are raised in. Life is tough enough, even under the best of other circumstances.
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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It was bound to come to this.

If there were never guns to begin with, today's angry youth would drive their cars and trucks over those they hate.

But we do have guns, so they use those.

Plus guns are easier to hide down ones pants.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:14 PM
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Location: Columbia, SC
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I think kids had more respect for their parents than to make them the parents of a school shooter.
So a kid back in the day thought, "I'd really like to shoot up my school, but, damn, I jsut have too much respect for my folks." They weren't afraid of geting killed by a police officer or spending the rest of their lives in prison or going to hell when they died... but they didn't want to dis their parents?

Well, if nothing else, that's a new thing to blame for school shooting.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:15 PM
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Location: Columbia, SC
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OK, this could be an explosive question to ask, but I'll ask anyway. Why are most school shooters white males? And a good number of them come from two parents homes.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:43 PM
 
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It was bound to come to this.

If there were never guns to begin with, today's angry youth would drive their cars and trucks over those they hate.

But we do have guns, so they use those.

Plus guns are easier to hide down ones pants.
What in the f$%k does this post mean?
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:14 PM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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OK, this could be an explosive question to ask, but I'll ask anyway. Why are most school shooters white males? And a good number of them come from two parents homes.
I mentioned one earlier, being mad and resentful that he "couldn't get the hot girls". It seems that there have been others who were also "not popular", lashing out at others. Sheesh.

Again, if it cannot be seen how troubled one would be to act out in this way, that these feelings had not just developed over night, but were overlooked.

So, when some see their kid at home in their room, keeping to themselves, using a device and not having many or any friends..it may mean nothing, some might be introverted, involved in something else, enjoy reading, are intellectuals, etc., but another might be one who is sullen...and knows where Dad's Guns are. What about kids who spend lots of time with Video Gaming, with the aggression involved, winning by shooting. (I know little about them or how popular they may still be, but know it has been said that they are very violent, and appear to "glamorize" gun usage... NOT a good thing).
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:29 PM
 
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The female shooting suspect is transgender and insists on being addressed/referred to with male pronouns.
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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The female shooting suspect is transgender and insists on being addressed/referred to with male pronouns.
Maybe life will be easier at the Colorado School for Wayward Girls.
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