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Old 05-12-2019, 07:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound View Post
You have a database of UPC codes that get blocked from being used by stores for use by EBT cards just like it is now for items not allowed provided by the state of Texas in this case. It would be very easy on a store level. I used to run a retail store that took EBT and I would input price changes etc.

Just like now the cashier would ring everything up and whatever was not allowed to be purchased via EBT including, cigs, liquor, diapers and baby formula as well as junk food if this law passed would leave a cash balance. The customer would have to pay for it themselves if they still wanted those items.

It would be very easy and cost virtually nothing for a small store to do.

Two issues however. The state of Texas would have to determine what foods would not be allowed which would be a big task and junk food companies would try to push to keep their products on the EBT list.
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There are more than 650,000 food and beverage products on the market today, and 20,000 more are introduced annually.[6] The complexity is multiplied because there is no clear standard for defining foods as “healthy” or “unhealthy,” or as luxury goods. Creating such standards would be difficult at best, and would entail substantial administrative costs to categorize and track the nutritional profile of each good to produce a SNAP-eligible foods list. The list would have to be maintained continuously and communicated to retailers and consumers in real time.

Furthermore, items should not be classified in a manner that suggests a particular food is always “good” or “bad.” The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, the largest organization of food and nutrition professionals, has adopted a position statement that the “total diet” or overall pattern of food eaten should be the most important focus of healthy eating.[7] All foods can fit into a healthy diet if consumed in moderation and with appropriate portion size, and as a result no particular food should be always banned."]Furthermore, items should not be classified in a manner that suggests a particular food is always “good” or “bad.” The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, the largest organization of food and nutrition professionals, has adopted a position statement that the “total diet” or overall pattern of food eaten should be the most important focus of healthy eating.[7] All foods can fit into a healthy diet if consumed in moderation and with appropriate portion size, and as a result no particular food should be always banned https://www.brookings.edu/testimonie...nap-purchases/
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Old 05-12-2019, 09:48 AM
 
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If you go on any low carb/atkins/grain free forums you'll see people talking about carrots, potatoes and whole grains like their pure poison. They will insist these foods cause heart disease and diabetes.
Carrots, potatoes, and whole grains, eaten in moderation, are fine. That's not what's making people obese and therefore sick with costly to treat obesity-related illnesses.
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Old 05-12-2019, 09:54 AM
 
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My only thing with SANP is that if their kids are being fed in school for free, their SANP money should be adjusted down. I wouldn't restrict what they purchase. If they buy lobster, for example, it just means they have to live on less the rest of the month.

Of course, eating potato chips is hardly baby murder.
I agree 100%, and even the USDA OIG has determined that 59% of households that receive SNAP benefits also double-/triple-dip or even more from federal means-tested free food programs for the exact same meals.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:03 AM
 
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Oh for gosh sakes, I would not cut the food stamps for school lunches. SNAP benefits are about $1.40 per meal. No one is living it up on that.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:53 AM
 
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Oh for gosh sakes, I would not cut the food stamps for school lunches. SNAP benefits are about $1.40 per meal. No one is living it up on that.
It's not just school "lunches." It's also free school breakfast, school snack, and school dinner for those enrolled in the taxpayer-subsidized after school programs, too. 3 meals a day, plus a snack, 5 days a week. And in the summer... It's free school breakfast and lunch for anyone from age 1 to 18.

https://cps.edu/About_CPS/Department...mmermeals.aspx
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Old 05-12-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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It's not just school "lunches." It's also free school breakfast, school snack, and school dinner for those enrolled in the taxpayer-subsidized after school programs, too. 3 meals a day, plus a snack, 5 days a week. And in the summer... It's free school breakfast and lunch for anyone from age 1 to 18.

https://cps.edu/About_CPS/Department...mmermeals.aspx

Good. No child should ever go hungry in this country. It's unconscionable.
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Old 05-12-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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It's not just school "lunches." It's also free school breakfast, school snack, and school dinner for those enrolled in the taxpayer-subsidized after school programs, too. 3 meals a day, plus a snack, 5 days a week. And in the summer... It's free school breakfast and lunch for anyone from age 1 to 18.

https://cps.edu/About_CPS/Department...mmermeals.aspx

From the Pricing and Payments page on the above-linked site:


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Under the Community Eligibility Provision (CEP) all students are provided breakfast and lunch free of charge each day. Second meals must be purchased and adults still need to pay for meals.

So it's not just those morally-bankrupt poor children who get free meals; it's all students. If SNAP benefits should be cut for the poor families, what punishment should be meted out for the well-off families whose children are getting free meals at school?

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Old 05-12-2019, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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To shame people for being poor. The time, energy and money is all for the purpose of shaming.
Obviously.

It’s raw meat for a targeted base of voters.
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Old 05-12-2019, 11:38 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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It's not just school "lunches." It's also free school breakfast, school snack, and school dinner for those enrolled in the taxpayer-subsidized after school programs, too. 3 meals a day, plus a snack, 5 days a week. And in the summer... It's free school breakfast and lunch for anyone from age 1 to 18.

https://cps.edu/About_CPS/Department...mmermeals.aspx
They feed everyone here in the summer. Even adults.

No wonder the caravans are skipping Mexico for the US.
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Old 05-12-2019, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Michelle Obama advocates for healthy food in school and physical exercise= bad

A state legislator advocates for eliminating unhealthy food for eligibility for SNAP= good

Regardless, itís Congress, not the state, that decides eligibility of food within the SNAP program.

Nothing prevents elected lawmakers from drafting proposed legislation that has zero chance of becoming a reality. Most then champion that they authored as an accomplishment. This is bipartisan nonsense.
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