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Old 05-09-2019, 12:44 PM
 
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Ball State university has a similar course segment that describes childhood sexuality, even in infants:
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The capacity for sexual response is present at birth. During the first two years in life
boys and girls discover the pleasures of genital stimulation, they rub their genitals on toys
or dolls. In some cases boys and girls have had what appears to be an orgasm. It is
impossible to know what sexual experiences mean to infants, but they are gratifying.
Many infants of both sexes continue in this gratification unless a negative vibe is given
from the parents. Some girls will do pelvic thrusts, and for boys its erections, although
ejaculation is lacking.
2.
What are the common behaviors of sexual development that occur during childhood?
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People show considerable variation in their sexual development during childhood.
Common features in the developmental sequence tend to emerge.
A child can learn to
express their emotions by kissing and hugging. First the child does childhood
masturbation, and then childhood sex play. Childhood masturbation involves the child
rubbing or foundling the genitals on dolls of the bed. Childhood sex play is takes place
with friends and happens as early as the age of 2 or 3. They would play house and rub
themselves together to play sex. By the age of 8 or 9 boys and girls begin playing by
themselves. The curiosity of sex still remains high. By the age of 10 or 11 kids are
interested in body changes. This is when a child is first self-conscious about their body.

https://www.coursehero.com/file/1196...-with-Answers/

I imagine the only controversy, assuming the above data is true, is whether or not to label that sexuality.

I have to go. I may look into this more later.
Class credit for Visit to nudist colony, Adult entertainment club or bookstore.

How come I didn't have any classes like this? (I could have done without the infant and childhood sexuality part)

From the same syllabus:
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Old 05-09-2019, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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What about the word INFANT don't you get?
So we shouldn’t study infant development?

If we shouldn’t study infant development, at what age is it OK to start studying the young of our species? What about fetuses, embryos, and blastocysts? Is it OK to study their development or not?
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Old 05-09-2019, 02:50 PM
 
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You think children commonly ask parents or other adults what a "BJ" or ask their parents to explain what "gay" means? Where is any indication that this is true? Just like in other times, those sorts of things are addressed among peers. Your argument, and the argument of activists seems to be, "Well, better to hear the truth from parents rather than from peers." Once again, let's examine the premises behind these beliefs. One premise is that the information kids are getting from other kids on subjects like these is erroneous and that adults clear these things up. No, I trust that most of the time, peers convey a sufficient understanding of what those particular words mean. We don't have many children in our society unaware of what "gay" means. Another premise is that the role of the parent is to be a dispenser of information in these cases. No, the main role of parents in these situations is to dispense moral guidance. It's a quite simple dialogue in these situations: "I understand you've thought about these things and probably discussed them with your friends. That's normal, but the fact is that these are things that simply aren't appropriate at your age. As you get older, we'll talk about them if you want to talk about them." If you wish to classify that as "vague and unsatisfying (perish the thought!)," that's fine. For most kids with capable parents, that really is a "satisfying" response to kids and they understand that this isn't a subject they should be talking about at that age. Now, for many, it's not, but that's a result of the incompetence and failed parenting strategies of their folks, not a problem with neglecting to have explicit conversations about "BJs" and homosexuality. And, again, there is the premise that children are harmed by not having explicit conversations about these things. Where is the evidence of this?
Well I started asking some of these questions when I was about 3. And failing to get answers that made any sense to me, I gave up asking my parents and started listening to other kids. And I can tell you, they were full of misinformation.

Things got weirder when I was about 10, and started reading the Old Testament for myself. There were some highly mystifying passages in there that puzzled me no end. How could you tie a string around a baby’s wrist before the baby was born? And exactly what did Onan spill? By then, I knew enough to not ask my mother.


When I got old enough to be interested in the subject, some of the ‘information’ I received about contraception was, um, quite wide of the mark. I don’t think it’s hard to see how that could have been detrimental to my welfare, had I relied upon it. BTW, a teacher set me straight.


Now I don’t know what is on a pre-verbal child or toddler’s mind when s/he is touching her/himself ‘down there’, but they sure seem to do it often enough as if they liked it.

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Old 05-09-2019, 02:55 PM
 
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I think in California they are either teaching now or want to teach kingergarten and preschool kids about transgenders. Why on earth do they need to know that stuff? Let children be children.

Sexualizing kids sounds like a pedophiles' dream. Wasn't it Ruth Bader Ginsburg who wrote a book about sex laws where she said the age of consent should be below 12?
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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I think in California they are either teaching now or want to teach kingergarten and preschool kids about transgenders. Why on earth do they need to know that stuff? Let children be children.

Sexualizing kids sounds like a pedophiles' dream. Wasn't it Ruth Bader Ginsburg who wrote a book about sex laws where she said the age of consent should be below 12?
Nope.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/di...-for-children/
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:14 PM
 
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I think in California they are either teaching now or want to teach kingergarten and preschool kids about transgenders. Why on earth do they need to know that stuff? Let children be children.
If a kid asks a question - would you answer as best you can, taking into account the kid’s level of understanding, or would you brush the question off?
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Old 05-09-2019, 07:45 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I'm predicting that within the next 50 years, as long as these stupid libturds are still running the schools (And, I believe they will be and things will be far worse than today) you will see high school projects like filming a porno movie will be common
I am an extreme liberal. Please don't make fun of my retarded-level IQ of 79.
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:07 PM
 
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Well I started asking some of these questions when I was about 3. And failing to get answers that made any sense to me, I gave up asking my parents and started listening to other kids. And I can tell you, they were full of misinformation.

Things got weirder when I was about 10, and started reading the Old Testament for myself. There were some highly mystifying passages in there that puzzled me no end. How could you tie a string around a baby’s wrist before the baby was born? And exactly what did Onan spill? By then, I knew enough to not ask my mother.


When I got old enough to be interested in the subject, some of the ‘information’ I received about contraception was, um, quite wide of the mark. I don’t think it’s hard to see how that could have been detrimental to my welfare, had I relied upon it. BTW, a teacher set me straight.


Now I don’t know what is on a pre-verbal child or toddler’s mind when s/he is touching her/himself ‘down there’, but they sure seem to do it often enough as if they liked it.
This sounds more like your own family issues rather than a generalization about kids that we can verify. Do you think parents should be telling their 3 year-olds about "BJs?" Because they asked? Forgive me, but I'm usually on a different planet from most contemporary parents and how their minds work. Are we at a place now where it's parenting dogma that if your child is curious about something...anything...it is the duty of the parent to explain it? That's the right thing to do in cases like this?

Is it appropriate to talk with an 11/12 year-old girl about birth control? Yes, most of the time. I'm trying t understand how you equate that with telling a 4/5 year-old about sexual positions homosexuality?

Since this entire thread and debate seems to be bereft of data, allow me to indulge in my own "lived experiences": I seriously doubt that you would have been headed to pregnancy or sexual oblivion had your teacher not told you whatever she/he told you. Like most kids, you would have sifted through the bad information, figured some things out and if some semblance of moral compass had been fostered in you by that point, made the right decisions. That's how it works for most kids. I trust you had those things, as well.

You'll forgive me, but if you believe the sorts of things we see in the syllabus in this course are simply about inquiry into child sexuality, I think you're terribly naive. You're also quite ignorant of what has happened in the social "sciences." Has it been awhile since you were in contact with academia? Things are a whole lot different these days in the social sciences and humanities than even in the 1990s. My contact has been in working on a graduate degree in history. I wish I could sufficiently convey how fixated that field and related fields are on all things "trans" and homosexual and all else related to that alphabet acronym that we see so often. What is one of the primary reasons for this fixation? Because an inordinate number of academics live those lifestyles and they finally have a vehicle by which they can achieve some validation for their lifestyles and one in which they can attempt to normalize these lifestyles.

That and it fits with their belief system, which is a binary (ironically) conception of the world as one of oppressors and victims, and the oppressors in this case are the "cisgender," usually Christian, conservative folks they imagine are telling them with whom they may have sex. Nevermind that a tiny percentage of those "oppressors" care one way or the other. That boogeyman is good for business, so to speak.
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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I think most normal people understand that, and take it for what it is and move on with life.

Why does it need studied in this context?
I'm not sure what you mean by "studied in this context" but I don't see much of a problem with calling it "sexualty," based on what I've seen...just maybe minor semantic disagreements.

The important thing is that when parents see their infants getting erections, and that sort of thing, we have pediatricians who realize that's just a natural occurrence, rather than something to be concerned about. It probably couldn't hurt for parents to have that knowledge before going to the pediatrician too.

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Old 05-10-2019, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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I think in California they are either teaching now or want to teach kingergarten and preschool kids about transgenders. Why on earth do they need to know that stuff? Let children be children.

Sexualizing kids sounds like a pedophiles' dream. Wasn't it Ruth Bader Ginsburg who wrote a book about sex laws where she said the age of consent should be below 12?
And the above has nothing to do with the topic this thread is about. Nobody is talking about sexualizing kids, so far as I've seen. They're talking about describing the sexual-ish stuff children naturally go through.
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