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Old 05-09-2019, 06:33 AM
 
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It's become political.

Science doesn't even come into play.

If you are Republican you automatically scoff at anything that suggest we be more gentle to our planet or be more efficient with our natural resources.

folks know when they get a poll/survey what their self assigned political label supports or doesn't and they answer to fit in that box.
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:37 AM
 
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The earth heats and cools periodically.

That’s all anyone needs to know.
Yes, it is a natural process, but even that has been weaponized by the left against freedom and free people.
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Frankly I have no F's to give regarding what the world thinks....On the other hand, no one I know denies the climate is changing. They do say things like we the people of the US should not be taxed to death to fix it and change our habits while other countries crap on the environment...
You will be taxed to death on climate change one way or the other. You are already paying for the impact of climate change, think of the weather events like the recent flooding in the mid-west, call it a tax or disaster relief but you are paying. It would be better to change our habits but the GOP seems resistant to science but I do think that Mitch McConnell came around but he is the minority.
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:46 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Americans have always been independent thinkers.
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:53 AM
 
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What if they were right? And 10 yrs from now we’re in a sh**ier world because of it and leaders who denied it admitted they were wrong?
What would you say/think then?
This is a very interesting point you're making!



I really appreciate you having posed this question.


Here's my answer:




For the last 50+ years, starting with being a young school kid I've been told by the Left that the world was going to end...that the oil would run dry, the oceans would be fished out and the farms would dry up in the next 10 years. I've been told this over and over. Algore said this again ten years ago, AOC is saying 12 years now... What have I witnessed? Well, none of their predictions have come true. In fact, the exact opposite has been the reality.


So, given the repeated failure of these predictions, you want me to believe them THIS time?
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:56 AM
 
Location: USA
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Climate changes naturally all the time. How can you measure with any certainty the changes are man made or natural? Duh, get over yourself. The debate is over. The science is settled. Stick a fork in it. Man Made Climate Change is a HOAX and a SCAM to redistribute wealth and income. Green is RED!
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Old 05-09-2019, 07:14 AM
 
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Well.. thats what $Billions in lobbying money will do the the electorate and their elected leaders.

Most other countries do not allow that kind of public bribery the US system relies on... and prefers to listen to their scientists and facts and logic.
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Old 05-09-2019, 07:29 AM
 
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This thread is great
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Old 05-09-2019, 07:38 AM
 
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I believe in man made climate change. However, the only solution is fewer people. Using it as an excuse to raise taxes and force people to change their behaviors is fubar.
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Old 05-09-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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The Guardian?.....Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: United Kingdom
World Press Freedom Rank: UK 40/180

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/
I wouldn't trust that site...they also have the NYT and Washington compost as HIGH
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