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Old 05-09-2019, 05:52 PM
 
Location: New York
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I would agree that the political spectrum appears to have shifted left over the past decade or two. I think it is mostly appearance. I think we can all agree that the left's political message is the loudest and most repeated but it doesn't really mean the majority of the country is moving in that direction.

That's the problem really. They make the most noise and repeat themselves until they beat people into submission.


They have become totalitarian fascists.
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:01 PM
 
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That's the problem really. They make the most noise and repeat themselves until they beat people into submission.


They have become totalitarian fascists.
They have adopted Brown Shirt tactics.


We all know what happened to them, and more virulent strain of RAT that replaced them
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Japan
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At least, she is by the political beliefs and leanings of her generation. Young Americans are moving steadily left, driven by their life experience with the system as it has been. As the generations born after 1980 mature and the Boomers die off, America is going to experience a sea change in the political landscape.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ewsstand-ideas
... they will move to the right. The Atlantic writers hand wave this away, saying that young people have "already been mugged by reality" in terms of their college debt, but it remains the most likely scenario. Eventually they will grow up and come to see many of their current attitudes as naive.
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:17 PM
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when i say conservative i mean "business model" and if nothing else i have full faith in the business model people to continue to influence the "average Joe"...the slippery slope argument is another of the rights go-to-tools ..i think a lot of people simply have talk radio on as a sort of background noise and i think the man is a good "entertainer" and because i used to listen to the man in the 90s..i thought he made a very valid observation when he said he could talk about the shortage of pink garbage trucks for a few weeks as being the biggest problem the country has and pretty soon THATs what the people would be repeating lol
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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At least, she is by the political beliefs and leanings of her generation. Young Americans are moving steadily left, driven by their life experience with the system as it has been. As the generations born after 1980 mature and the Boomers die off, America is going to experience a sea change in the political landscape.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ewsstand-ideas
Sorry, none of that makes her--or anyone who votes for people who espouse her beliefs-- a "centrist." That's not how it works. If she were a centrist, and relatively few voted for her, she'd still be a centrist.

Yeesh.
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Old 05-09-2019, 07:38 PM
 
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Bernie is Alt-right, If AOC is centrist
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Old 05-09-2019, 07:40 PM
 
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The OP doesnt realize that Gen Z is the most conservative generation ever. Tough lost
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Old 05-09-2019, 07:51 PM
 
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AOC Is A Centrist
If AOC's worldview really is typical of Americans under 40... what a tragedy for the country. How did this happen? Reading the Atlantic article it seems like a good case can be made for blaming academia. Not only is there the indoctrination they've received, but the authors claim their school loan debt has made them into socialists.
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:11 PM
 
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At least, she is by the political beliefs and leanings of her generation. Young Americans are moving steadily left, driven by their life experience with the system as it has been. As the generations born after 1980 mature and the Boomers die off, America is going to experience a sea change in the political landscape.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ewsstand-ideas
They're moving to the left for the promise of free stuff.
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Old 05-09-2019, 09:43 PM
 
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That old wive’s tale simply isn’t true. Gen-Xers and Millennials are deep into their 30’s and 40’s with no increase in the percentage of Republican vote as they age. In addition, despite claims to the contrary, the first members of Gen-Z to vote are voting like Millennials.

Studies have shown that the more truthful statement is that for the majority of people, political identity is established in young adulthood and kept for life. That’s why generations have their own unique characteristics. The political conditions prevalent during young adulthood forge a generation's political identity.


https://www.people-press.org/2018/03...ican-politics/

New Survey: Young Staying Liberal, Conservatives Dying Off

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019...itical-issues/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/u...llennials.html
All of which is going to change now that they see the spectacular results of unfettered capitalism. What you don't understand is that something is true in politics until it is not. There is a certain lag going on because of the lost generation of the recession and the anemic recovery under Obama's policies, but bookmark the thread and we will talk after the next election.

In any event, Trump has made headway with younger voters:

Clinton received a lower share of the vote among young voters (ages 18-29) than Obama received in 2012 or 2008. Young adults preferred Clinton over Trump by a wide 55%-37% margin; by comparison, Obama had a 60%-36% advantage over Romney in 2012 and a 66%-32% advantage over McCain in 2008.
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