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Old 05-10-2019, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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Unless you live off-grid and you don't use public roads at all, drive a car that passed safety standards, drink city water (including going to a restaurant where they use city water), send or receive mail, purchase USDA-inspected food at a grocery store, utilize the public schools (either yourself as a child or your children/grandchildren if you have them), go to professionals who utilized those public schools, etc. you could not have your current lifestyle without the government. No need to be offended or embarrassed. We live in a society where the government runs or has its hand in much of what we do, for better or for worse.

I'm shocked that we didn't get the typical "Muh roads!" type comment before the 4th post.
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Old 05-10-2019, 06:51 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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And it's not their job to bail out farmers. Wouldn't you agree?
Does the fed have policies that intentionally suppress what Farmers can get for their products? Like milk for instance? Are there no Milk regulators? The Fed absolutely owes it to those farmers they screw over by suppressing the price they can charge for their product.

You can't have it both ways.
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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Does the fed have policies that intentionally suppress what Farmers can get for their products? Like milk for instance? Are there no Milk regulators? The Fed absolutely owes it to those farmers they screw over by suppressing the price they can charge for their product.

You can't have it both ways.

It's amazing how regulations (also known as government protectionism or crony capitalism) cost everyone in the form of higher prices widely spread out so as it is hardly noticed, all for the benefit of a tiny percentage. Of course government will get its cut for providing that protectionism err... cough... regulation, so with every industry regulated, the government gets its cut from every industry at the expense of the consumer and the industry as well.

Frederick Bastiat talks about this in his essay called "That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen". If you haven't already, I encourage you to read Bastiat's collective works. It is available at: https://mises.org/library/bastiat-collection


But then again that's just MY opinion, for what it's worth.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:26 PM
 
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It's amazing how regulations (also known as government protectionism or crony capitalism) cost everyone in the form of higher prices widely spread out so as it is hardly noticed, all for the benefit of a tiny percentage. Of course government will get its cut for providing that protectionism err... cough... regulation, so with every industry regulated, the government gets its cut from every industry at the expense of the consumer and the industry as well.

Frederick Bastiat talks about this in his essay called "That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen". If you haven't already, I encourage you to read Bastiat's collective works. It is available at: https://mises.org/library/bastiat-collection


But then again that's just MY opinion, for what it's worth.
Martin Shkreli agrees with every word.
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:50 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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How does it feel to be thought of and treated as property.


You don't think all that doesn't come with many strings attached, placing you in their bondage?
I'd be highly offended, if anyone told me I could not make it in life, without their help.
Get a taste of Marxism.
and religion

edit: the repub kind
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:59 PM
 
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How does it feel to be thought of and treated as property.
You don't think all that doesn't come with many strings attached, placing you in their bondage?
I'd be highly offended, if anyone told me I could not make it in life, without their help.
Get a taste of Marxism.
I'm not sure what you're referring to. But it has nothing to do with property. If you help a friend, do you consider him your property? But the idea means that the government helped by providing roads, a telecommunications system, basic schooling, a framework for businesses to exist - all those things you couldn't do yourself. For many people, it may have provided loans for college, unemployment money to help a family through hard times - or, for some, even jobs.
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:12 PM
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Location: Columbia, SC
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I'm offended when a wealthy country tells it's most distraught and out of luck and needy citizens basically to go off themselves. "I have mine. Too bad for you!" We should be helping one another make it, not making it harder for the have nots to become one of the haves
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Old 05-11-2019, 07:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I'm offended when a wealthy country tells it's most distraught and out of luck and needy citizens basically to go off themselves. "I have mine. Too bad for you!" We should be helping one another make it, not making it harder for the have nots to become one of the haves
Knock yourself out.


Relationships and friendship is all about the value they bring to you.


I'm all about tough love. Throw you into the lake, and watch to see if you sink or learn to swim.
Those that don't try to swim, are a burden on those that jump in to save them. Everyone drowns.
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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Knock yourself out.


Relationships and friendship is all about the value they bring to you.


I'm all about tough love. Throw you into the lake, and watch to see if you sink or learn to swim.
Those that don't try to swim, are a burden on those that jump in to save them. Everyone drowns.

Couldn't add to your reputation points yet so here's my kudos to you for this post.
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:37 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Knock yourself out.


Relationships and friendship is all about the value they bring to you.


I'm all about tough love. Throw you into the lake, and watch to see if you sink or learn to swim.
Those that don't try to swim, are a burden on those that jump in to save them. Everyone drowns.
The definition of conditional love. A person's value is in what they can do for you.
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