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Old 05-13-2019, 05:53 AM
 
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I don't recall anyone throwing bananas on the field at a football (soccer) game, indeed you would be promplty arrested by the police and security and go before the courts, where you would receive a severe sentence and be banned from attending football matches.

Modern grounds have CCTV everywhere, and there is a national police football intelligence unit.

Racism is prevalent in some European countries, and ore especially in Eastern Europe but is not a big issue in British football.
One would think throwing anything onto the field would be a common sense safety issue for all of the players?
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:03 AM
 
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I don't recall anyone throwing bananas on the field at a football (soccer) game, indeed you would be promplty arrested by the police and security and go before the courts, where you would receive a severe sentence and be banned from attending football matches.

Modern grounds have CCTV everywhere, and there is a national police football intelligence unit.

Racism is prevalent in some European countries, and ore especially in Eastern Europe but is not a big issue in British football.
In Italy some years back. I was there with German cousins. There was one black player on the German team so it wasn’t even the evil Germans doing it!

The two worst instances of racism I’ve ever witnessed were not in America! We would never accept that behavior here.
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:14 AM
 
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Danny Baker has always been a gobby Millwall yob and a renowned late-night drunken Twitterer.
But he isn't a racist and I believe his explanation that it never crossed his mind the photo he used in an attempt to poke fun of the upper classes would cause offence.
He removed it within minutes after this was pointed out to him.
Sadly the BBC panics at the first sign of a Twitter mob carrying pitchforks.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:20 AM
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In Italy some years back. I was there with German cousins. There was one black player on the German team so it wasn’t even the evil Germans doing it!

The two worst instances of racism I’ve ever witnessed were not in America! We would never accept that behavior here.
Italy is different to the UK, where soccer hooliganism was dealt with severally after events in the 70's and 80's.

Some East European countroies also have significnt problems, and some of the Montenegro fans were a disgrace earlier this year, when England played against them.

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One would think throwing anything onto the field would be a common sense safety issue for all of the players?
Throwing objects with the intent to injure players on to the field would be taken seriously by the police and courts.

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The Public Order Act 1986 permitted courts to ban supporters from grounds, while the Football Spectators Act 1989 provided for banning convicted hooligans from attending international matches. The Football (Disorder) Act 1999 changed this from a discretionary power of the courts to a duty to make orders. The Football Disorder Act 2000 abolished the distinction between domestic and international bans.

The Football Offences Act 1991 created specific offences of throwing missiles onto pitches, participating in indecent or racist chanting and going onto the pitch without lawful authority.

In Scotland, a new law was introduced in March 2012 to deal with the growing problem of threatening behaviour particularly in relation to inciting religious hatred. The Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012 creates two new offences: Offensive Behaviour related to football and Threatening Communications.

The former covers expressing or inciting religious, racial or other forms of hatred and and threatening behaviour at or on the way to a regulated football match. The latter relates to threats of serious violence and threats intended to stir up religious hatred sent via the internet or other communications.

Football Hooliganism - politics.co.uk

Football Spectators Act 1989 - Wikipedia

Football (Disorder) Act 2000 - Wikipedia

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Old 05-13-2019, 09:46 AM
 
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Danny Baker has always been a gobby Millwall yob and a renowned late-night drunken Twitterer.
But he isn't a racist and I believe his explanation that it never crossed his mind the photo he used in an attempt to poke fun of the upper classes would cause offence.
He removed it within minutes after this was pointed out to him.
Sadly the BBC panics at the first sign of a Twitter mob carrying pitchforks.
Thanks for your insight as most of us here don't know who he is. So he meant it as a slap against the upper classes. I can understand that. But it's odd that no one showed that kind of picture with any of the recent royal newborns. And there's a world of animals he could have chosen from--a pig for greed, for instance. I'm still not convinced.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:56 AM
 
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Thanks for your insight as most of us here don't know who he is. So he meant it as a slap against the upper classes. I can understand that. But it's odd that no one showed that kind of picture with any of the recent royal newborns. And there's a world of animals he could have chosen from--a pig for greed, for instance. I'm still not convinced.
I follow his Twitter feed occasionally.
He's a writer who cut his teeth in music journalism before launching a TV career and he's an multi award-wining radio host.
It's his online style to post wacky pictures and odd comments to go with them.
If I thought there was a hint of racism behind the post I'd say so and his apology strikes me as being sincere.
On balance I genuinely think it was an honest mistake possibly enabled by too much alcohol late at night.

https://twitter.com/prodnose?lang=en
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:06 AM
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I follow his Twitter feed occasionally.
He's a writer who cut his teeth in music journalism before launching a TV career and he's an multi award-wining radio host.
It's his online style to post wacky pictures and odd comments to go with them.
If I thought there was a hint of racism behind the post I'd say so and his apology strikes me as being sincere.
On balance I genuinely think it was an honest mistake possibly enabled by too much alcohol late at night.

https://twitter.com/prodnose?lang=en
The 2015 BBC2 comedy series 'Cradle to Grave' was about Danny Bakers childhood.

Cradle to Grave - Wikipedia

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