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Old 05-20-2019, 06:14 AM
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I liked the suggestion one person (I can't recall whom it was, but it was some female state legislature) made the other day.



Essentially, she said since conservatives believe that the government has the right to control a person's body (such as abortion for women), then the same conservatives should have no problem with the government mandating that young males undergo a vasectomy. If said male then, upon attaining adult status, wishes to father children, he may undergo a reversal of the vasectomy.


It makes some degree of sense. If the government can control a woman's body the government can control a man's body.
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Old 05-20-2019, 08:15 AM
 
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I think you'd be hard pressed to find any state that there was a majority, never mind an overwhelming majority, that favored banning abortion outright.

Then you got nothing to worry about
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Old 05-20-2019, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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This is the boogeyman being pushed by the left for decades. It never happened then, and it won't now.

Clearly, some states are responding to the cavalier support of infanticide (after-birth "abortions"), in which doctors and the mother hold a summit about whether or not the delivered baby will live or be killed. That response is a surprise?

The SC will strike down the bans on early abortions, and the "heartbeat" laws. There's no way that Roberts will uphold those laws, and it's doubtful that Kavanaugh would. But all it'll take is one to vote with the liberals, and Roberts is sure to do that.

As for restrictions such as banning late term and partial-birth abortions, or infanticide, those will be upheld.

None of which means that Roe v. Wade will be overturned.
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Old 05-20-2019, 11:21 AM
 
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This is the boogeyman being pushed by the left for decades. It never happened then, and it won't now.

Clearly, some states are responding to the cavalier support of infanticide (after-birth "abortions"), in which doctors and the mother hold a summit about whether or not the delivered baby will live or be killed. That response is a surprise?

The SC will strike down the bans on early abortions, and the "heartbeat" laws. There's no way that Roberts will uphold those laws, and it's doubtful that Kavanaugh would. But all it'll take is one to vote with the liberals, and Roberts is sure to do that.

As for restrictions such as banning late term and partial-birth abortions, or infanticide, those will be upheld.

None of which means that Roe v. Wade will be overturned.
Infanticide is illegal.
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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The Roe v. Wade decision from 1973 is now nearly 50 years old. The ruling allowed states to make their own abortion laws, which some pro-life senators say was based off of whether or not the baby in the womb is a person. If you are a woman who believes that the science from 1973 is still applicable for today you need to just get your ass back in the kitchen. Modern science has proven life begins at conception.
So I take it you're fine with not allowing women to use an IUD as birth control and you're completely upset when a fertility center destroys the unwanted fertilized eggs of its patients. Funny how I never see any legislation geared towards getting those fertilized eggs born.

And since we're talking about modern science, are you aware that there is no heart in a 6 week fetus? Instead, there is detectable activity within a 4-millimeter wide growth known as a fetal pole. The fetal pole is a thickening on the margin of the yolk sac of a fetus during pregnancy.

I mean, we ARE talking modern science here, right?


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a return to back-alley butchers?


If they didn't care about the child what makes one think they cared about themselves.
Guess that sum's it up..
In the same way you don't care about young women who are left dead or dying by back alley butchers. What makes your lack of caring so much more superior to what you think theirs is?

If you think women who have abortions don't care about themselves or their fetus and that's despicable, what would you call yourself for not caring about the lives of other people?
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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The states will decide.
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by Delahanty View Post
This is the boogeyman being pushed by the left for decades. It never happened then, and it won't now.

Clearly, some states are responding to the cavalier support of infanticide (after-birth "abortions"), in which doctors and the mother hold a summit about whether or not the delivered baby will live or be killed. That response is a surprise?

The SC will strike down the bans on early abortions, and the "heartbeat" laws. There's no way that Roberts will uphold those laws, and it's doubtful that Kavanaugh would. But all it'll take is one to vote with the liberals, and Roberts is sure to do that.

As for restrictions such as banning late term and partial-birth abortions, or infanticide, those will be upheld.

None of which means that Roe v. Wade will be overturned.
Good thing no state allow this.
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:10 PM
 
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Imagine it going to the Supreme Court only to fail & the reason it failed was because Trumps two justice that he appointed voted against it. How would that look to liberals knowing that the fear they put into the public about abortion was just a scare tactic to try and not get those justices appointed.
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:20 PM
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Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Imagine it going to the Supreme Court only to fail & the reason it failed was because Trumps two justice that he appointed voted against it. How would that look to liberals knowing that the fear they put into the public about abortion was just a scare tactic to try and not get those justices appointed.
I will be very pleased if SCOTUS unequivocally upholds Roe v Wade.

How would it look to conservatives, realizing that no one, not even conservative Supreme Court justices, buys all the fear and anger they have tried to stir up about "killing babies" over the past 4 decades?
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:26 PM
 
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Make tubal ligations and vasectomies much cheaper. Make it cheaper for people to freeze their eggs and sperm. Promote adoptions. Then abortions would be unnecessary.
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