Could Abortion Actually Become Illegal in America Again? (prison, children, women)
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That does not change the fact that death is not when the heart stops beating. IF that were true people would be declared dead before CPR or a defibrillator is used when the heart has stopped beating.
The person that I was responding to said that death is when the heart stops beating, not always true.
I always love the "men should have a say" comment. What does "a say" consist of, exactly? What is the compromise when a woman wants to terminate her pregnancy but a man does not want her to? Do it halfway?
Remove the fetus and give it to the man to gestate.
9 men decided Roe v Wade. This SC has 6 men, 3 women.
Context.
........and they decided a man should not get to force the woman they impregnated to give birth against her will......or have an abortion against her will.
Let's not forget that there is currently an 11 year old in Ohio who was assaulted and raped and is now pregnant. According to the state, she may well have to carry that child to term and have it.
In addition to that, if you are a woman who is raped and ends up pregnant because of that rape, and if you live in a state where your rapist can sue to have custody and visitation rights, you will have to continue to interact with your rapist for as long as he chooses.
And let's not also forget that the penalties in Georgia and Alabama are going to be more severe for a woman having an abortion than they are for the person who assaults, rapes, and impregnates that woman or child. And don't forget these states actually investigate miscarriages as well, so if you, a woman, have a natural miscarriage or a stillbirth, you may find yourself facing jail time like the following women: "Melissa Ann Rowland of Utah was arrested and charged with murder after one of her twins was stillborn. The reason? She had refused a C-section.
Purvi Patel of Indiana was sentenced to 20 years in prison for feticide. She said she had a miscarriage, and no traces of any abortifacient were found in her blood work.
Angela Carder was 27 years old, 26 weeks pregnant, and had cancer. She was forced to undergo a C-section in Washington, D.C. to try to save the baby despite the risk to her health. They both died.
Michelle Lee - a waiting list for a heart transplant - was denied an abortion by a Louisiana hospital despite the pregnancy endangering her life. She had to be transported to Texas by ambulance to end the pregnancy.
Rennie Gibbs of Mississippi was 16 years old when she delivered a stillborn baby — she was indicted on charges of “depraved-heart murder†after accusations that she used drugs.
A woman in Louisiana was jailed on charges of second-degree murder after she went to the hospital for unexplained vaginal bleeding. It was over a year before medical records showed that she had a miscarriage.
Christine Taylor of Iowa was charged with attempted feticide after she fell down the stairs at home.
Bei Bei SHuai lost her pregnancy after she tried to kill herself — within a half hour an Indiana homicide detective was questioning her. She was arrested for murder."
Edited to add: if you think a fetus is a person, then you are now keeping thousands of fetuses under unauthorized incarceration. By keeping their mothers locked up, you are denying these mothers the ability to eat the correct foods for the optimal nutrition of a fetus. So you better be prepared for a lawsuit to allow these pregnant women in jails and prisons to be set free. Just a heads up.
It's possible, yes, but I believe much push back from Dem women, moderate Republican women and Independents will make the party think twice about going down this road.
It's too late for them to turn back now, they have already shown us all how they really feel about women and our rights.....and it isn't pretty.
That does not change the fact that death is not when the heart stops beating. IF that were true people would be declared dead before CPR or a defibrillator is used when the heart has stopped beating.
The person that I was responding to said that death is when the heart stops beating, not always true.
You may advise that ill-informed person the US Supreme Court has already defined death, and nothing relating to the heart is part of the definition.
Remove the fetus and give it to the man to gestate.
Yup, when a man can shove a watermelon through his butthole, then he can talk about forcing women to give birth.
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Originally Posted by Mircea
You may advise that ill-informed person the US Supreme Court has already defined death, and nothing relating to the heart is part of the definition.
Especially when the heart they're talking about in a fetus isn't even really a heart!
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Originally Posted by Annie53
Yes, just like abortion we will go from there.....and keep pushing for laws to restrict the right to own a gun anyway.
This is from Gloria Steinem and it's brilliant:
"How about we treat every young man who wants to buy a gun like every woman who wants to get an abortion - mandatory 48 hour waiting period, a note from his doctor proving he understands what he's about to do, a video he has to watch about the effects of gun violence...let's close down all but one gun shop in every state and make him travel hundreds of miles, take time off from work, and stay overnight in a strange town to get a gun.
Make him walk through a guantlet of people holding photos of loved ones who were shot to death, people who call him a murderer and beg him not to buy a gun."
It's too late for them to turn back now, they have already shown us all how they really feel about women and our rights.....and it isn't pretty.
And child rights. If the woman has children, they want to deny them their mother by sending them to prison for a long time.
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