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Old 05-17-2019, 06:56 PM
 
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So you get extra points if your father left you and your mother depends on welfare?
You are screwed if you live in a happy family and your hardworking parents care about your education?

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The College Board plans to assign an adversity score to every student who takes the SAT to try to capture their social and economic background, jumping into the debate raging over race and class in college admissions.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/sat-to-...nd-11557999000
Yes. Only squeaky wheels get the grease
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Old 05-17-2019, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Another scheme brought to us by the person who gave us 'common core' in our schools.
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Old 05-17-2019, 07:57 PM
 
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Crime rate and poverty level is factored in?

Damn, too bad this wasn't around when I was growing up. I woulda been an Einstein!
commit more crimes and work as little as possible; that will boost your scores

so seems to be no answer to the question: what happens if there's an error in compiling the adversity score? how will a student know? there is no transparency or recourse
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Instead of doing "adversity" bonus, America should work on improving public schools.
True.

It's so simple even a moron can figure it out.

All that has to be done is to abandon the Liberal one-size-fits-all grade mentality and adopt Mastery Learning.

In the real world, you have kids who are at 4th Grade Reading, 2nd Grade Math and 3rd Grade Science.

There's nothing wrong with that, it's perfectly normal.

To deal with that, you employ Mastery Learning, where students practice tasks until they get them right, and only then do the move onto the next grade level.

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Test scores are just one factor in holistic admissions evaluations. If there's someone with a 1540 SAT score, 4.0 GPA...
Then obviously we have a raging case of grade inflation here.

A 1540 SAT is a "D" student and that student should be shot if they attempt to get anywhere near a college campus.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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Interestingly, colleges used to factor in GEOGRAPHIC diversity when making admission decisions. This was 30-50-70 years ago. They did it by STATE: having students from all 50 states was considered a "cool" thing. (Then the one-worlders took over, and the admissions people salivated over students from foreign countries.....not Americans. Well, they do still like American students....but only CERTAIN ones, wink wink.....see the original post.....)
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:45 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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As a POC I'm embarrassed and can't even begin to explain this crap to my kids.

Ya well, you get a bonus because your Dad is NA. Live with that forever.....
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Old 05-18-2019, 03:25 AM
 
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Instead of doing "adversity" bonus, America should work on improving public schools.
In Japan, teachers are rotated among different (public) schools, so all the schools can have an equal quality of education.

The curriculum should be more standardized too. Those who cannot perform well academically should be sent to vocational schools instead of regular high schools. European and Asians countries all do that early split.
That requires effort, just prioritize the really smart poor kids so they get more open doors than the smart Asian that grew up upper middle class.
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Old 05-18-2019, 03:37 AM
 
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According to liberals, such an allowance would be flatly racist.

Whenever anyone proposes "Voter ID" laws, requiring people to get ID cards proving they are eligible to vote, they immediately scream that black people would have more difficulty getting such cards because they live farther away from the office that issues them, or can't pay a fee (if any) as easily as whites, etc. etc. And therefore, "Voter ID" discriminates against black people on the basis of RACE.

By this "logic", the same liberals would have to conclude that the SAT test will become reverse-biased against whites, for the same reason... because a greater percentage of black people would live in adverse circumstances.

And therefore, the SAT would be illegally discriminating against whites on the basis of RACE.

I'm sure that any minute now, the liberals will come piling in to scream against this clearly-racist proposal for the SAT.
This is " equality" in action. Parents should be commended for choosing to raise children in the face of adversity, being poor in liberal dominated cities, who happen to have really smart kids. They can be the ones that taste middle class life and live the American dream, but shame on them if they happen to have smart kids as well, that's just greedy. Only one generation of comfortable living standards is enough!
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Old 05-18-2019, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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This is " equality" in action. Parents should be commended for choosing to raise children in the face of adversity, being poor in liberal dominated cities, who happen to have really smart kids. They can be the ones that taste middle class life and live the American dream, but shame on them if they happen to have smart kids as well, that's just greedy. Only one generation of comfortable living standards is enough!
If they have smart kids, they don't need very much "help" to get higher scores. This is just a simple fact. Many Asian immigrants came from poor third world countries and English is normally not their first language, but their children are still able to obtain a solid middle class status.

How do you measure adversity? How do you correlate a student from a low income family, a student who is here illegally, a student from a single parent family, a student with a drug addict parent, a 15 y/o with a baby, and a student from an affluent family who has violent alcoholic father or a mother who having an affair. More variables, more inequality, and more opportunities to game the system.

Taken to an extreme, if the NFL used this thinking, some guys would get a half-second handicap on the 40 yd dash, and some players would only need to cross the 10 yard line to count as a touchdown. Like all life, there is one standard, 100 yards is 100 yards - even in the Special Olympics and the Senior Games.

Express that hardship you are dealing with in the essays. Like I posted earlier, my little nephew (now 6.5 years old) suffered from childhood Leukemia. He can express this in the essays in the future, but a score is a score.

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Old 05-18-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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So you get extra points if your father left you and your mother depends on welfare?
You are screwed if you live in a happy family and your hardworking parents care about your education?

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The College Board plans to assign an adversity score to every student who takes the SAT to try to capture their social and economic background, jumping into the debate raging over race and class in college admissions.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/sat-to-...nd-11557999000
More dumbing down of America.
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