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View Poll Results: Should people be allowed to make decisions for themselves?
Yes, they make their own decisions and enjoy their own consequences. 43 89.58%
No, we must put a gun on their head and force them to do what we want them to do 3 6.25%
I volunteer to be a slave. 1 2.08%
I don’t know. 1 2.08%
Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-16-2019, 06:54 PM
 
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Yes, they should.

To expand on what the trobesmom said, when you show up at the hospital, 500 lbs and cancer-ridden because you smoked a pack a day and ate McDonald's for every meal, they should let you die. The taxpayer should not pick up the tab for your treatment if you don't have insurance and have a lifelong history of making poor health choices.

Same with the payday loan scenario. The government should not bail you, or the financial institution that made the risky loan out. No more too big to fail. You made your bed, lie in it.
Exactly.
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Old 05-16-2019, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Austin
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For example, DUI and second hand smoking.
How about a female weight lifter required to compete against a biological man identifying as a woman who calls himself mary or high school female track athletes forced to compete against a biological male runner identifying as female named andraya?

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Old 05-16-2019, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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You can make your own decisions in life, but I disagree that you will enjoy all of the consequences. Most of the things on that list are illegal and harmful and just could come back to haunt you in the long run.

If you want to engage in those kinds of things, knock yourself out. Just don't expect or demand that someone comes to the rescue when your life is swirling in the bowl.
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:00 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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I find that "marry whomever you want" makes it into the list of otherwise unhealthy or possible deadly choices. Why is that even in there? Of course you should marry who you want.
Because that's a big issue for Republicans.
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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I find that "marry whomever you want" makes it into the list of otherwise unhealthy or possible deadly choices. Why is that even in there? Of course you should marry who you want.
In fairness, "marry whomever you want" could include sham marriages, polygamy, marrying close relatives, or marrying people (or not people) who can't consent, such as children. So it's probably fair overall, even if the OP was intending to make this about same-sex marriage.
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:12 PM
 
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I'll play.

With all of these choices, if a person and only that person is affected, then by all means. However, no man is an island and most of these choices will ultimately affect someone else, be it family, taxpayers, the public, etc. If you sit in your house by yourself and take drugs and smoke, drink and eat yourself to death, then go for it.

I find that "marry whomever you want" makes it into the list of otherwise unhealthy or possible deadly choices. Why is that even in there? Of course you should marry who you want.
Because we can’t marry whomever we want, can we?
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:15 PM
 
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In fairness, "marry whomever you want" could include sham marriages, polygamy, marrying close relatives, or marrying people (or not people) who can't consent, such as children. So it's probably fair overall, even if the OP was intending to make this about same-sex marriage.
Read the consenting adults part please.
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:17 PM
 
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You can make your own decisions in life, but I disagree that you will enjoy all of the consequences. Most of the things on that list are illegal and harmful and just could come back to haunt you in the long run.

If you want to engage in those kinds of things, knock yourself out. Just don't expect or demand that someone comes to the rescue when your life is swirling in the bowl.
They are illegal because we want to control others.
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:17 PM
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Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Be careful when you answer.

When their decisions aren’t hurting anybody or encroaching other people’s rights, should consenting adults be allowed to make decisions for themselves?

For example:
1. Taking drugs / selling drugs
2. Making bad financial decisions such as getting payday loans
3. Eating excessively
4. Drinking
5. Smoking
6. Gambling
7. Prostitution
8. Marry whomever they want
9. Decide when to end their life
10. Etc., etc., etc.
What if they make bad decisions such as drinking, drugging, smoking, etc. And then you get to pay for their health care for liver disease, hep C, lung cancer, etc? You ok with that??

Forget pie-in-the-sky theories, the reality is that you will end up paying the bill (assuming you are a taxpayer).
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:29 PM
 
Location: CA
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The problem is when exactly does individual rights effect others.
He didn’t say “effects”. He said “hurting anybody or encroaching other people’s rights”.
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