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Old 05-18-2019, 06:16 AM
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Initially I thought he might house them at Mar a Lago resort or other Trump properties, but no, they are simply dumping them to Florida with the expectation that FL tax payers will shoulder the cost. Trump never asked if Florida was ok with this, and not even the governor was told about the plan.

And no, Florida does not have sanctuary cities.

The last word is, they they will simply be released into the community since there are no facilities for them.

I think they should build a camp right next to Mar a Lago, and house them there.


Broward and Palm Beach counties bracing for planeloads of immigrants from crowded U.S. camps

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/po...5rm-story.html

The Trump administration is preparing to move hundreds of immigrants from overcrowded camps along the U.S. border to Broward and Palm Beach counties, local officials said Thursday.

Broward Mayor Mark Bogen and Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw said they were told to expect two planeloads of immigrants each week, starting in about two weeks. The 270 weekly passengers — about 1,000 each month — would be split, with half going to Palm Beach County and half to Broward.

Local members of Congress, Florida’s two Republican senators and even Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said they didn’t know about it.

“The governor’s office was not informed of this decision,” his spokeswoman said in an email. “Florida counties do not have the resources to accommodate an influx of illegal immigrants.”

The federal government isn’t offering to help, he said.
Simple,irritate the sane voters in these districts and they will stop voting in these weak spined republicans and open border democrats...it sucks in general I prefer he send them all back and barring that to California,New York and Illinois but it is what it is.
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Old 05-18-2019, 06:23 AM
 
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Trump to dump illegals to Florida

They know Florida is a swing state, another way to amp up the base I suppose. Nevertheless, it could backfire on them.

The lack of ethics and professionalism in the Trump administration is astounding.
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Old 05-18-2019, 06:24 AM
 
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Releasing illegals into the community while they await their hearings is nothing new and has been standard practice for decades in the southwest. The illegals are turned over, in most cases, to charitable organizations who hold contracts with ICE to provide them food, clothing, and medical services. Most of them are relocated to other areas of the country - typically to relatives - where they await their court dates. The latest immigration trend is families claiming asylum status which is presenting great challenges to both immigration authorities and the contracted organizations. In any case, most of those going to Florida will only be there temporarily before they get relocated around the US.
None of that is free. It's taxpayer-funded. For example:

The Billion-Dollar Business of Operating Shelters for Migrant Children - NY Times
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Old 05-18-2019, 06:28 AM
 
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Pelosi has a large back yard at her San Francisco Mansion and she can fit some of the illegals back there.
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Old 05-18-2019, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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None of that is free. It's taxpayer-funded. For example:

The Billion-Dollar Business of Operating Shelters for Migrant Children - NY Times
Didn't say it was. It is big business, as it the importation of cheap labor. Texas, which supposedly is suffering so much, won't back e-verify. Why not? My point though was in response to a question from a reader. The illegals are, for the most part, not just dumped off. They are picked up by so-called charitable agencies being paid by the government. How this will work in Florida and the other places where illegals typically are not sent remains to be seen, but I can assure you that the people of Florida, for all the howling now, will never know these people are there or passing through. There are some 23 million people in that state and a few hundred illegals will not even be a blip on the most sensitive radar. Heck, they probably have 2-3 million illegals living among them already.
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Old 05-18-2019, 06:59 AM
 
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Didn't say it was. It is big business, as it the importation of cheap labor. Texas, which supposedly is suffering so much, won't back e-verify. Why not?
Because it's mostly ineffective at identifying aliens unauthorized to work in the US.

From the report commissioned by DHS:
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"As seen in Exhibit 2, approximately 3.3 percent of all E-Verify findings are for unauthorized workers incorrectly found employment authorized and 2.9 percent of all findings are for unauthorized workers correctly not found employment authorized. Thus, almost half of all unauthorized workers are correctly not found to be employment authorized (2.9/6.2) and just over half are found to be employment authorized (3.3/6.2). Consequently, the inaccuracy rate for unauthorized workers is estimated to be approximately 54 percent with a plausible range of 37 percent to 64 percent. This finding is not surprising, given that since the inception of E-Verify it has been clear that many unauthorized workers obtain employment by committing identity fraud that cannot be detected by E-Verify"
https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...12-16-09_2.pdf

A unique biometric identifier such as fingerprints, retinal scan, etc., would be required from every US citizen, LPR, and authorized temporary non-citizen worker to make e-verify work as well as it was intended to. E-verify has no such database, and I doubt you'd get every US citizen, LPR, and authorized temporary non-citizen worker to agree to submit such biometric identifyers to the Fed Gov. It's too intrusive and a violation of our 4th Amendment Rights.

Illegal aliens are 7% of the US population, and 6.2% of the workers vetted through the e-verify system, so The DHS report's conclusion about the ineffectiveness of e-verify is valid.
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My point though was in response to a question from a reader. The illegals are, for the most part, not just dumped off. They are picked up by so-called charitable agencies being paid by the government. How this will work in Florida and the other places where illegals typically are not sent remains to be seen, but I can assure you that the people of Florida, for all the howling now, will never know these people are there or passing through. There are some 23 million people in that state and a few hundred illegals will not even be a blip on the most sensitive radar. Heck, they probably have 2-3 million illegals living among them already.
I doubt that. So does California. Their governor insists they can't take any of the illegal alien "asylum" seekers.
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Old 05-18-2019, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The complaint by FL politicians is (and FL politics is all GOP), that there is no plan whatsoever, except just ship them here and release them into the community.
Ah, but you see here, they are moving these illegals into West Palm Beach and Broward County, where they are democrat strongholds.

I also find it interesting that the newly elected mayor of the city of West Palm Beach has ordered the resignation of the chief of police, and he wants to bring someone who worked under the controversial Sheriff Israel of Broward County (the same Sheriff who was fired by Governor DeSantis for his poor handling of the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting). Same county that the fake mail bomber was caught in as well.
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Old 05-18-2019, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Pelosi has a large back yard at her San Francisco Mansion and she can fit some of the illegals back there.
She probably already has some trimming her hedges and cleaning her pools from time to time.
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Old 05-18-2019, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Boston
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overwhelming majority of these people return for their hearings, what difference does it make where they are sent to wait?
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Old 05-18-2019, 07:54 AM
 
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DeSantis will be very happy - he just finished the leg. session and they purposely didn't do E-Verify. He claims that they need the workers.

This isn't news. Florida, Texas, etc. want more. Trump is doing them a big favor. Only in his warped mind is it anything but. \
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