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Old 05-17-2019, 11:54 AM
 
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we must cater to every group, no matter how ridiculous and expensive the cost, lest we risk the ear-splitting shrieks of 'xenophobe!!' and 'racist!!' from leftist nutbars.

Or...you know...being protected by the laws of this country shouldn't be limited to only English speakers. This may be the dumbest thread I've read on City Data and its got some tough competition.
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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New York, San Fran, L.A. Orlando and Miami are highly traveled areas for people to visit from outside the country that do not speak English. It isn't just for immigrants.
The courts utilize interpreters. The OP is just showing his/her ignorance on how the courts operate.
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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It can take years and years to learn a language to a proficient level, and even more at a professional level. A person may know conversational English, but get lost in a legal type setting as even native speakers are at a loss when it comes to legalese.

You also have tourist who of course may not be fluent in the language of the country they are visiting.
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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Or...you know...being protected by the laws of this country shouldn't be limited to only English speakers. This may be the dumbest thread I've read on City Data and its got some tough competition.
The day isn't over yet.
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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Why would you not want to have as many interpreters available for witnesses or litigants in Court proceedings for whom English is not their primary language?

What an utterly absurd thing at which to take umbrage.
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:57 AM
 
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I agree... but
Irony...
Many people here pontificating have ancestors who did not learn English worth a darn. Their kids did.
You have hit a raw point here. Our ancestors to speak English when they first came. They worked during the day and went to night school in order to learn the English language. These night schools were provided by groups such as the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (which now services other ethnic and religious groups) and other entities. Why can't Hispanic or Chinese people, certainly groups with a critical mass, organize and fund similar night education?
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Old 05-17-2019, 12:00 PM
 
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You have hit a raw point here. Our ancestors to speak English when they first came. They worked during the day and went to night school in order to learn the English language. These night schools were provided by groups such as the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (which now services other ethnic and religious groups) and other entities. Why can't Hispanic or Chinese people, certainly groups with a critical mass, organize and fund similar night education?
So a civil litigant should not be able to avail him/herself of the law or a witness should be barred from testifying because they haven't got around to completing night school yet? That is the argument here?
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Old 05-17-2019, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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You have hit a raw point here. Our ancestors to speak English when they first came. They worked during the day and went to night school in order to learn the English language. These night schools were provided by groups such as the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (which now services other ethnic and religious groups) and other entities. Why can't Hispanic or Chinese people, certainly groups with a critical mass, organize and fund similar night education?
Nevertheless, you're getting sandbagged on this one. The laws allow for court interpreters, period.
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Old 05-17-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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Or...you know...being protected by the laws of this country shouldn't be limited to only English speakers. This may be the dumbest thread I've read on City Data and its got some tough competition.
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The courts utilize interpreters. The OP is just showing his/her ignorance on how the courts operate.
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It can take years and years to learn a language to a proficient level, and even more at a professional level. A person may know conversational English, but get lost in a legal type setting as even native speakers are at a loss when it comes to legalese.

You also have tourist who of course may not be fluent in the language of the country they are visiting.
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Why would you not want to have as many interpreters available for witnesses or litigants in Court proceedings for whom English is not their primary language?

What an utterly absurd thing at which to take umbrage.
I don't think it's dumb in the least. When I went to Portugal as a tourist I made sure not to act in a manner where I intersected with the Court system. Why can't I go to other countries and compel them to provide me services in English if I commit a crime there?
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Old 05-17-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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I don't think it's dumb in the least. When I went to Portugal as a tourist I made sure not to act in a manner where I intersected with the Court system. Why can't I go to other countries and compel them to provide me services in English if I commit a crime there?
I'm not familiar with Portugal's judiciary, but I'm fairly certain that if you were a fact witness and your testimony need to be taken in a proceeding, they would provide you with an interpreter.
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