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Old 05-19-2019, 11:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Lieneke View Post
Six weeks is not arbitrary. That is when a fetal heart beat can be detected.

I don't accept the argument that female humans are a special sort of mammals that does not have a regular biological fertility cycle. Reading here, one gets the impression a monthly human cycle is a myth.

Regardless, there is really no excuse for women claiming that they are intelligent and capable, but when it comes to pregnancy, they know nothing and need months to figure it out.
So basically, what you are saying is that you don't accept biology. Not surprising for a forced-birther. Here, let me educate you a bit:

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The menstrual cycle, which is counted from the first day of one period to the first day of the next, isn't the same for every woman. Menstrual flow might occur every 21 to 35 days and last two to seven days. Your menstrual cycle might be regular — about the same length every month — or somewhat irregular, and your period might be light or heavy, painful or pain-free, long or short, and still be considered normal. Within a broad range, "normal" is what's normal for you.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-l...e/art-20047186
See, this is what happens when men try to make laws for women. They are so clueless they have no business even trying. You are a classic case in point.

 
Old 05-19-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: London
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
Love this quote:

"People with disabilities can hear you. People who went through foster care can hear you. People who grew up poor, experienced abuse, or were raised by single moms can hear you. Everyone whose lives you're describing as not worth living--**they can HEAR you**."
If you knew that in your next life, you'd be an abused homeless cripple all your life, would you choose to be born again?
 
Old 05-19-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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We're not.

We're pro-choice.

They are anti-choice.

Don't get it twisted.
We have nothing “twisted”. We understand the psychology of deception, such as choosing words like “choice”, in reference to aborting babies. Intellectual dishonesty.

This is what liberals do. Its a universally applied tactic to every leftist agenda item. Like renaming “illegals” as “undocumented”. You fool nobody with this childish nonsense.
 
Old 05-19-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Lieneke View Post
Human life has a definition independent of a fetus: heartbeat. Fetal life is defined the same way: heartbeat. Human life is viable in the middle of the ocean if there is a boat. Without a boat, viability is still possible, but without a heartbeat there is no human life.
Explain why abortion was never considered murder in the US if this is all true and unborn babies have full personhood status.

Explain why abortion was allowed to the point of "quickening" (feeling fetus move, usually 16-20 weeks iirc) at common law.
 
Old 05-19-2019, 11:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Lieneke View Post
Six weeks is not arbitrary. That is when a fetal heart beat can be detected.

I don't accept the argument that female humans are a special sort of mammals that does not have a regular biological fertility cycle. Reading here, one gets the impression a monthly human cycle is a myth.

Regardless, there is really no excuse for women claiming that they are intelligent and capable, but when it comes to pregnancy, they know nothing and need months to figure it out.
Some believe that life begins at conception.

What about abortions performed at 12 weeks before the technology existed to detect a fetal heartbeat at 12 weeks? Those were okay in your opinion?
 
Old 05-19-2019, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by Lieneke View Post
Six weeks is not arbitrary. That is when a fetal heart beat can be detected.

I don't accept the argument that female humans are a special sort of mammals that does not have a regular biological fertility cycle. Reading here, one gets the impression a monthly human cycle is a myth.

Regardless, there is really no excuse for women claiming that they are intelligent and capable, but when it comes to pregnancy, they know nothing and need months to figure it out.
Sorry that you don't accept the reality that many women do not have a regular cycle, but that is a fact.
Google irregular menstrual cycle and there are many medical publications discussing it. There is even a medical insurance code for it.

Maybe learn a little more about human biology before you try to decide for another human what they should be allowed to do regarding their own medical decisions.
 
Old 05-19-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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Christina Aguilera said it in her 2003 song Can't Hold Us Down, there is a trend in society, it has nothing to do with me or my friends and it is nothing new. "If you look back in history it's a common double standard of society, The guy gets all the glory the more he can score, While the girl can do the same yet you call her a wh**e, I don't understand why it's OK, The guy can get a way with it the girl gets named" Nailed it.

You like to pretend a lot of obviously true statements aren't true. This is another example. Men can get away with having a lot of sex, women are less likely to, probably because they are the ones who get pregnant. They tend to be labeled. See this thread and others as an example. No one even cares about the man's role in procreation in these cases, certainly not pro-lifers. It's about punishing women only, while men are free to have sex with whoever they want and get whoever they want pregnant. Some of you guys may think it's gross, but the same standards are not imposed equally. No laws are ever made controlling men's reproductive freedom. It's obvious, you just choose not to see it.
No. It's not obvious. Christina Aquilera is a has been pop star. She's your source for information?

Who are all these people congratulating men for sleeping around. Do they get awards? Is there an annual convention and a ceremony? You need to open your eyes to REALITY. What is going on around you, no what you are being told to believe is true.

Again: Don't know ANYONE who thinks sleeping around is something to be proud of. If these are the types of people you surround yourself with, get different friends.

Prolifer stance:
Men should wear condoms.
Men should have sex with women who have the same values that they have.
Do either of those? There is no problem.

I don't think any of the opinions that you post are based in reality. There's a lot of misinformation, propaganda, and stereotyping though.
 
Old 05-19-2019, 11:36 AM
 
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A fetus is the only body part that can grow and live on its own once at a certain age. Or are you suggesting it is a body part that stays attached forever?
And until that fetus reaches the point that it can live on it's own it is the womans choice if she will allow her body to be used as an incubator.
 
Old 05-19-2019, 11:36 AM
 
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Explain why abortion was never considered murder in the US if this is all true and unborn babies have full personhood status.

Explain why abortion was allowed to the point of "quickening" (feeling fetus move, usually 16-20 weeks iirc) at common law.
Explain the biology that dictated blacks were considered 3/5 of a person by law.
 
Old 05-19-2019, 11:37 AM
 
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Sorry that you don't accept the reality that many women do not have a regular cycle, but that is a fact.
Google irregular menstrual cycle and there are many medical publications discussing it. There is even a medical insurance code for it.

Maybe learn a little more about human biology before you try to decide for another human what they should be allowed to do regarding their own medical decisions.
You've got to love the men on here trying to tell us about menstrual cycles. Their ignorance is full on display for everyone here. It's really rather amusing that they think they should be taken seriously.
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