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Old 05-20-2019, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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There's a bit more to it. Excluding rare incest, rape and risk to mother scenarios, pregnancy starts with two willing people who know full well that sex can result in pregnancy. When pregnancy occurs, they want to terminate that pregnancy, but they also want a lot of time to discover the pregnancy and make decisions about termination. Maybe it's time that people with unwanted pregnancies took more responsibility to be self-aware and to manage the situation in a timely manner.

That has nothing in common with donating a kidney.
There it is. punishment.
Perhaps if states would stop legislating bans and restrictions those terminations could take place in a timely manner.

 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:11 PM
 
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"Like you have been told ..."

Some women don't know how to figure out that they're pregnant until it is obvious to everyone, and some women can't make a decision about terminating a pregnancy until the fetus is 2 weeks shy of viable.

Women know that sex can result in pregnancy, and many are on it right away. Many are aware of hormonal changes that begin at the time of conception, so they are on it right away. Most women who were not planning to get pregnant are on it right away and schedule a termination appointment.

It is a weak argument to claim that because some women are not self-aware, they have fewer responsibilities regarding unplanned pregnancy.
Once again, here we have a man telling us women, many of whom have actually experienced pregnancy, what it feels like to be pregnant.

What on earth makes you think you are qualified to tell we who have been women our entire lives what it feels like to be a woman?
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Again, there's that biology thing that you still do not get.

Men do not get pregnant. Your questions are irrelevant.
So men are not biologically responsible for getting someone pregnant?
If the government can force a woman to use her body against her will, then the government should force the man to be responsible for half of all expenses due to the pregnancy that he helped create.

But that would be like punishing men for having sex, so that will never happen.
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:14 PM
 
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So men are not biologically responsible for getting someone pregnant?
If the government can force a woman to use her body against her will, then the government should force the man to be responsible for half of all expenses due to the pregnancy that he helped create.

But that would be like punishing men for having sex, so that will never happen.
No, if we want a true analogy, the government should start forced mandatory vasectomies for men who impregnate women who don't want to be pregnant. That's a much more equitable analogy. If the government owns women's reproductive systems, then they should own men's as well.
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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"Like you have been told ..."

Some women don't know how to figure out that they're pregnant until it is obvious to everyone, and some women can't make a decision about terminating a pregnancy until the fetus is 2 weeks shy of viable.

Women know that sex can result in pregnancy, and many are on it right away. Many are aware of hormonal changes that begin at the time of conception, so they are on it right away. Most women who were not planning to get pregnant are on it right away and schedule a termination appointment.

It is a weak argument to claim that because some women are not self-aware, they have fewer responsibilities regarding unplanned pregnancy.
2 weeks shy of viable is a long way off from 6 weeks. In fact the vast majority of abortions are done a full 9 weeks or more before viability.

Self awareness has nothing to do with it when there are no signs to be aware of in the first place.
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:19 PM
 
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So men are not biologically responsible for getting someone pregnant?
If the government can force a woman to use her body against her will, then the government should force the man to be responsible for half of all expenses due to the pregnancy that he helped create.

But that would be like punishing men for having sex, so that will never happen.
Really grasping at the absurd straw here, aren't you?
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:20 PM
 
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2 weeks shy of viable is a long way off from 6 weeks. In fact the vast majority of abortions are done a full 9 weeks or more before viability.

Self awareness has nothing to do with it when there are no signs to be aware of in the first place.
"Like you've been told ...", abortion at 20 weeks gestation is 2 weeks shy of a viable premie.
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Really grasping at the absurd straw here, aren't you?
Nope, the poster claimed there was a biology thing when responding to my statement that men should be 50% responsible for all expenses related to a pregnancy if a woman is being force to gestate and give birth.

He is 50% biologically responsible for a pregnancy.
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:23 PM
 
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"Like you've been told ...", abortion at 20 weeks gestation is 2 weeks shy of a viable premie.
And like you have been told the vast majority of abortions are done before 13 weeks, that is 9+ weeks before viability.
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:24 PM
 
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I am a woman that has had children. I know more than a man what it feels like to be pregnant, and to have a menstrual cycle.
Congratulations! What does that have to do with whether termination of pregnancy is termination of life?
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