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Old 05-20-2019, 08:17 AM
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By escalating tensions with Iran, if he were to do so at the behest of his senile and insane National Security Advisor, Trump would risk alienating a large subset of his supporters who hoped that he would keep his promise of less foreign intervention.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...porters-bolton
Yep! I am one of them...I want NO WAR with Iran and won't support one in whatever way US citizens are supposed to support endless war. War with Iran has ALWAYS been what Neo Cons and Chicken Hawks and Israel Firsters want....
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Old 05-20-2019, 08:21 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If there is a more ardent Trump supporter than I am on the forum, and its been pointed out by so many on the left there isn't. (Although there are a number of Trump supporters equal in support to myself.)
What more proof is need that the media article is lying ?

Fake news !!! Propaganda of a leftist rag !!!



It is the Guardian. They too, have had to retract more Fake News articles than INFOwars has.
What Jones was tossed from Social Media for, has now been proven to be true....
When is the Guardian and all their reporters going to be banned from Social Media?
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Old 05-20-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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By escalating tensions with Iran, if he were to do so at the behest of his senile and insane National Security Advisor, Trump would risk alienating a large subset of his supporters who hoped that he would keep his promise of less foreign intervention.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...porters-bolton

"Guess Who Doesn't Want War With Iran? Trump Supporters"

I don't know anybody who WANTS war with Iran. Do YOU?
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Old 05-20-2019, 10:10 AM
 
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"Guess Who Doesn't Want War With Iran? Trump Supporters"

I don't know anybody who WANTS war with Iran. Do YOU?
Trump's national security advisor.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...enezuela-trump
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Old 05-20-2019, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Guess Who Doesn't Want War With Iran? Trump Supporters
His supporters want whatever Trump tells them to want.
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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"Guess Who Doesn't Want War With Iran? Trump Supporters"

I don't know anybody who WANTS war with Iran. Do YOU?
Other than Bolton?
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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I'm disturbed because Trump doesn't know enough about foreign diplomacy, policy and history to be able to make a rational, sane decision.

So I'm worried that if it is true his advisers want war with Iran, Trump doesn't care enough or know enough to fight against it.

Or if it is as Trump says -- all hunky dory and everyone gets along -- Trump is encouraging a war.

Either way -- if a war happens -- it's a bad thing.+

Oh and I think it is funny that Trump fans are more worried about some folks criticizing Trump for how he makes the decision to go to war then the fact that Trump may make a decision to go to war. Seems the criticism or concern is misguided.

As a nation we should all be concerned about all this war talk. Is it what we really want -- whoever is President?
Trump as a war president would be a disaster. He’s bad enough without a war.
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Can’t rep you enough. Iran innocent? Give me a break. I think more leftists would want a war so they have yet another thing to blame Trump for and use against him in their quest to oust him from the presidency.
Iran is about as innocent as the United States is. Put it that way.
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no one said anything about raising tensions over something that happened 40 years ago. it was however used as a counterpoint to you saying iran never attacked us, WHEN THEY DID. try some reading comprehension courses they will do wonders for you.






that "deal" NEVER reduced tensions between the US and iran.






the presence of our military forces is due to other circumstances, including fighting terrorism, and by invitation of various governments in the middle east, which is in fact NONE of irans business in the first place.



you seem to want to appease iran for what ever reason, and as has been proven time after time, in history, appeasement DOES NOT WORK. the most obvious was neville chamberlain getting a peace deal with hitler in 1938 with the munich accord. and what happened? hitler still started world war two. yeah nice job chamberlain, you idiot. or how about the non aggression pact that stalin signed with hitler? what happened? hitler invaded in 1941 anyway.


and those are just two examples of making deals with totalitarian countries around the world. they are al similes at the deal because they know that they will break those deals at a later date anyway.
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They will once they are given the talking points. As of right now no one knows why we are starting a war.
This time, you’d better try appeasement, because there’s nothing to be had in Iran for the United States beyond a Pyrrhic victory, only this one comes at a cost that you can’t even begin to imagine.

The Iranians aren’t the pushovers that you think they are. 4500 American dead in Iraq, right? In Iran, you’re gonna see American body counts that are gonna shock the hell outta you. And if you’re still talking that “airstrikes “ nonsense where American troops don’t touch the ground, you’d better think again. We’re gonna have to take Iran city to city, town to town, village to village, and mountain to mountain. You think the United States military is prepared for that? Huh? Then after we manage to take those areas, we’ve gotta THEN take on guerrillas and jihadists from all over the globe that’ll want a piece of our asses. They’ll infiltrate every city and town in Iran and commit the most savage acts of terrorism against our troops, contractors and civilian personnel that they can find.

Now how do we get out? Thought about that? Because one thing the United States is great at doing is getting into intractable wars. We NEVER know how to leave. We’ll of course do regime change and install a puppet pro U.S. government that’ll be seen for what they are...pro-American stooges. The people won’t respect that regime and will agitate to overthrow it the minute we leave. And our invasion will convince the Iranian people that the best government for them is what??? Oh yeah...a pro Islamic one with goons that are more extreme than the ones we overthrew. Nice

Tens of thousands of American troops dead, and that’s what you’ll have to show for it.

Try appeasement for once. Know why? Because it’s better than the alternative which is humiliation.
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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"Guess Who Doesn't Want War With Iran? Trump Supporters"

I don't know anybody who WANTS war with Iran. Do YOU?
Geezus Christ. Now you’re just just being oblivious to the facts on the ground in Washington.

There are LOTS of people in the Trump Administration, led by Bolton and Pompeo that want a war with Iran. Get real.
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Question ......

Do you REALLY think that Normal People (ie those Deplorable, multi-phobic people who voted for Donald Trump) haven't noticed that Leftists are running around the World (Obama, Kerry, Pelosi) and telephoning Foreign Leaders (like Dianne Feinstein calling the Foreign Minister of Iran this week) telling them that Trump is Orange Man Bad and help us force him out of office??

Who is really "hoping for war" and bad things for the USA??
It's certainly not President Trump - and Normal People who pay attention to what's going on in the World, and don't use CNN,ABC,CBS,NBC,MSNBC and Left Wing Foreign Publications like the one in the OP -- are perfectly aware that President Trump is not a war monger.


He is something that Leftists don't understand and we accept that -- a Patriot that actually believes the USA is a good country and not a patsy to the Leftists, Socialists and Communists here and abroad.
A conspiracy theory by a Trump supporter...why am I not surprised?
If Trump isn't a war monger why did he put a known Neo-Con War monger as head of the NSA?

Sort of like putting Hitler in charge of Israel.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:45 PM
 
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By escalating tensions with Iran, if he were to do so at the behest of his senile and insane National Security Advisor, Trump would risk alienating a large subset of his supporters who hoped that he would keep his promise of less foreign intervention.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...porters-bolton
There won’t be any war with Iran despite the fervent hope of liberals.
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