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Old 05-22-2019, 09:26 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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The birth rate was a lot higher in 1970 than today. We aren't hitting the replacement rate any more. If it wasn't for immigration, we'd already have a dropping population.

This is a great book on the subject:

https://www.amazon.com/What-Expect-W.../dp/1594037310
That is nice that we have a lower birth rate then 1970 but the point is we added 20 million people in just the last 10 years or so. Or the population of New York or Florida. If we keep doing that the USA will have a population of a half a billion people in less then 100 years.
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Right here; Right now
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In two generations those immigrants will be out scoring the “American” kids on the SAT tests.....
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any references..?? The vast majority will not, and the U.S. produces more than enough top scoring graduates, that often have to take a back seat to diversity, preventing them from being admitted to the top colleges of their choice. Mostly from China and India, not so many from Mexico, Central and South America. Minorities most often have children much at a much younger age than Americans; children are very expensive, and these families often depend on doing low skilled jobs which don’t pay enough to survive in many cases, which are becoming fewer and far between. Also, there is the very real fact that many jobs will becoming automated in the near future. The U.S. really has no need for unskilled laborers.
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any references..??
I'll take that challenge ...

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"Workers in STEM fields (science, technology, engineering, and math) play an increasingly important role in the U.S. economy. STEM occupations are critical to the country’s innovation, and STEM workers are responsible for many of the cutting-edge ideas and technologies that create jobs and raise the living standards of U.S. households. Foreign-born workers make up a growing share of the country’s STEM workforce."
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U.S. produces more than enough top scoring graduates
They're not taking a back seat to diversity they drop out and take jobs ...

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[quote]The U.S. really has no need for unskilled laborers.[quote]
You've got that right ...

Why some immigrant kids are more likely to pursue STEM majors

"In fact, 36% of immigrants who come to America after age 10 and who emigrate from nations whose main language is very different from English wind up majoring in STEM subjects in college, the study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences found. In contrast, around 20% of American-born college students pursue STEM majors."
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Minorities most often have children much at a much younger age than Americans; children are very expensive, and these families often depend on doing low skilled jobs which don’t pay enough to survive in many cases, which are becoming fewer and far between.
You must be talking about the 43.1 million Americans who live in poverty, in one of the wealthiest nations in the world.

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Old 05-22-2019, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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That is nice that we have a lower birth rate then 1970 but the point is we added 20 million people in just the last 10 years or so. Or the population of New York or Florida. If we keep doing that the USA will have a population of a half a billion people in less then 100 years.
Because of immigration. First world countries need to have every woman have 2.1 children to have zero population growth. We're coming in at 1.88. If we had zero immigration, our population would be shrinking. Countries like Germany, Japan, South Korea, Italy, etc are already there. The median age of a Japanese person in 1965 was 23.6 years old; now it is 46.7. They had 300,000 more deaths than births last year and with only 50,000 migrants coming in, they are in serious population trouble.
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Right here; Right now
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That is nice that we have a lower birth rate then 1970 but the point is we added 20 million people in just the last 10 years or so. Or the population of New York or Florida. If we keep doing that the USA will have a population of a half a billion people in less then 100 years.
Even though immigration has a significant impact on population, most of them will age out of the workforce and die, without having had replacement level births --- if this trend continues.

That is what the data gathered for the report, Immigrant and Native Fertility 2008 to 2017, reveals.

"Another reason that immigration may in the long term add to population aging is that for every major racial/ethnic group sending large numbers of immigrants, fertility is below the replacement level among the native-born generation.

In 2017, three-fourths of immigrant women in their reproductive years were either Hispanic or Asian. The TFR of native-born Hispanic women was 1.85 children and it was only 1.44 children for native-born Asians — both well below replacement level."


In the Bible it says to go forth and multiple. It seems no one in the world has paid to it any attention. Just saying ...
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:17 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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The population explosion was hyped for years. In the 70s it was predicted we would be dead by 1990. The hysteria was similar to the climate change predictions that we will all die in a few years.

The developed western world has an extremely low fertility rate. So low that Europeans will eventually become extinct. The same applies to Japan.

Muslim men have 4 kids with each of their wives (up to four wives in some cases). The world of the future will be Islamic and I fear for women and the LGBTQIA people.
This is a lie, the fertility rate in most non-Sub-saharan African muslim countries is 1.5-3.5, and only Afghanistan and one or two other countries in the entire non-Sub Saharan African muslim world is higher than that. The future of the world, is much more likely going to be African- which will mean tons of Christians and tons of muslims, just like today.
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Old 05-23-2019, 03:27 AM
 
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Who’s going to vote for Democrats if we do that?
I hate to break anyone`s little snot bubble here but the dependent class is the GOP`s base.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...curity/516861/
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Old 05-23-2019, 04:04 AM
 
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I thought we had an overpopulation problem?
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/bi.../19/id/916647/
So many liberal talking points are dead?

(1) Yang and some other democrats are wrong when they claim that automation is about to put millions out of work unlike any other moment in history to the point where we need Universal Basic Income.

(2) The New York Times and other liberals have claimed that an increase in population is damaging to the environment as it constrains resources, deforests, etc...
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Old 05-23-2019, 04:12 AM
 
Location: NY
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I thought we had an overpopulation problem?
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/bi.../19/id/916647/
This only proves that global famine is real.......................
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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(2) The New York Times and other liberals have claimed that an increase in population is damaging to the environment as it constrains resources, deforests, etc...
Population isn't going down worldwide or here in the United States yet - - so, yes, the environment is being damaged. How anyone could argue otherwise is pretty astounding.
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:29 AM
 
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any references..?? The vast majority will not, and the U.S. produces more than enough top scoring graduates, that often have to take a back seat to diversity, preventing them from being admitted to the top colleges of their choice. Mostly from China and India, not so many from Mexico, Central and South America. Minorities most often have children much at a much younger age than Americans; children are very expensive, and these families often depend on doing low skilled jobs which don’t pay enough to survive in many cases, which are becoming fewer and far between. Also, there is the very real fact that many jobs will becoming automated in the near future. The U.S. really has no need for unskilled laborers.
Exactly!
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