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Old 05-20-2019, 10:41 AM
 
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The world has a population problem; America does not. End abortion and stop immigration. We will then have a self-sustainable population.
End the reasons women have abortions. That's the problem that seems can't be solved --- poverty.
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Wait-just last week all the "experts" were decrying the loss of jobs due to automation replacing American workers. If that's true, just why do we need a bunch of unskilled, uneducated, largely illiterate "immigrants"?
Many of the migrants that reach our boarders are middle class families in their countries, who owned businesses and worked in various industries. The reason they are poor when they get here, is because they have exhausted all their resources, trying to survive.
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Wait-just last week all the "experts" were decrying the loss of jobs due to automation ...
Maybe in some fields, possibly not in these.
25 Jobs Employing the Most Immigrants in America
25. Military
24. Protective service
23. Legal
22. Community and social service
21. Education
20. Office and administrative work
19. Business operations
18. Extraction
17. Art, media, and sports
16. Management
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14. Maintenance
13. Finance
12. Health care practitioners
11. Architecture and engineering
10. Transportation
9. Health care support
8. Personal care and service
7. Life, physical, and social sciences
6. Food and beverage
5. Production
4. Computing and mathematics
3. Construction
2. Building and maintenance
1. Farming, fishing, forestry
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Old 05-20-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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The population explosion was hyped for years. In the 70s it was predicted we would be dead by 1990. The hysteria was similar to the climate change predictions that we will all die in a few years.

The developed western world has an extremely low fertility rate. So low that Europeans will eventually become extinct. The same applies to Japan.

Muslim men have 4 kids with each of their wives (up to four wives in some cases). The world of the future will be Islamic and I fear for women and the LGBTQIA people.
As my grandma use to say, 'the world is made up of all kinds of people'.

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"Dr. Kugle’s work shows that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Muslims do indeed deserve a place in Islam. The project was generously funded by Human Rights Campaign."
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She also use to ask, 'can we not all just get along'? Of course she was referring to our family differences, but the question is applicable to other areas of social settings, as well.
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Old 05-20-2019, 05:31 PM
 
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If we need immigrants, get qualified immigrants using points system like Canada and Australia does.

Not the caravans that come from south of the border and become leeches on our society.
Amen. RAISE Act is similar to Canadian system which imports assets to their nation, not liabilities.
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Old 05-20-2019, 05:36 PM
 
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Who’s going to vote for Democrats if we do that?
It's not just about bolstering voting numbers but denying right to repair legislation, promoting endless consumerism while rolling back private ownership for cars or even homes. Do it do it again as Black Eyed Peas would say.
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Old 05-20-2019, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Inland FL
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Need to increase the birth rate , not bring in more immigrants.
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:01 PM
 
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Need to increase the birth rate , not bring in more immigrants.
I don't think we even need to do that. We already have nearly 330 million people in our country now. A smaller population to fit a smaller economy is much healthier for everyone.
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:05 PM
 
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Need to increase the birth rate , not bring in more immigrants.
The birth rate increased too fast after world war 2. The boomers were beneficiaries of a nation that sought out rapid growth and had the vast continental emptiness to do so. Everything falls back to the leftover manufacturing capacity that supplied the war effort, what do you do with it? Let it go idle and deterioate or use it to drive economic growth? That's where the car comes into play, the construction of the interstate system and the construction of new suburbia.

The boomers replaced their generation with a generation just as large as theirs. But their lifestyle is expensive so they're reluctant to give up the high paying jobs they have, and with the service sector oversaturated with a lot of competition, there's no need to pay workers the money they made when those businesses were just getting off the ground and a high quality product and workforce was necessary to expand.

Governments grew with the population, and require more and more money to sustain itself, why the calls to have children to create more tax revenue to siphon from. Standard of living advanced too much too quick to where cost of living skyrocketed but for the younger generation their standard of living declined. All of the demand is inflated by millennials in constrained housing markets, artificially inflated because not all of them can afford the skyrocketing col especially when boomers won't let go of their jobs.

Why would millennials replace themselves with a generation that'll be worse off than they are when their standard of living declined so much compared to what they can remember while young being raised by the boomers?

The market is primarily boomers in competition with theirselves in the housing market they primarily can afford to play in. Everyone thinks their house is worth so much because look at all the millennials that want a house! And crazy boomers willing to pay top dollar for such a house because the market keeps saying prices are only going up!
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:13 PM
 
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That's why immigration is pushed so damn hard by the left, yes the majority of those people just want a better life, and will suck up living in poor living conditions while raising a family and making **** money doing so, the boomers can blame themselves for the browning of the nation because they're so reluctant to give up their standard of life.
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Socialism is genocidal. We don't need immigrants to fix the problem. We need to abolish socialism.
Before socialism, old age security was based on your family or private charity, hence large families were the rule, not the exception.
After socialism, the illusion of taxing other people's children for old age security backfired, once couples stopped having as many children (due to the socialist overhead expense).
To compound matters, the socialist tax on labor and business penalized them - driving many industries to leave the country entirely, with their jobs.
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:42 PM
 
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That's why immigration is pushed so damn hard by the left, yes the majority of those people just want a better life, and will suck up living in poor living conditions while raising a family and making **** money doing so, the boomers can blame themselves for the browning of the nation because they're so reluctant to give up their standard of life.
Huh?
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