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Old 05-20-2019, 12:05 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Bingo!
Very well stated. These people ONLY care that they can keep fondling their guns, regardless of ANYTHING.
Then help promote gun safety, but no your answer is ban guns. So when someone really has a intruder in their home they will be defenseless.


Let me ask you if you knew you had a intruder in your home how long will it take police to get to you?, 2 minutes, 5 minutes....15 minutes? What can happen to you in 2 to 15 minutes as you wait for help?
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:09 PM
 
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It was a tragic accident that has happened before but no need to blame "gun culture" as many have defended themselves using a gun.


TV public commercials on how I described above to say "go way the police are coming I have a gun" would help reduce these accidents yet anti gun groups don't support that because they would rather promote ignorance and fear on how to use a gun than promote safety on how to use one.
This man was so incompetent he didn't even have the presence of mind to call through the door first. He got spooked and he fired. But we must allow him, and all the other idiots who also lack discernment or the mental capacity to handle firearms responsibly--and there are many--to own as many guns as they want. We must not infringe on their right to be incompetent idiots and kill people.

You neatly sidestep that reality because you don't want to admit it's true.
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:14 PM
 
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Bingo!
Very well stated. These people ONLY care that they can keep fondling their guns, regardless of ANYTHING.
Actually thinking of the issue from a logical standpoint (e.g. without having to degenerate into using terms like "fondle"), the two posts that you quote are not related to firearms rights as much as they are related to personal rights regarding mental health. Having known a few folks who've unfortunately suffered from mental health issues (including one who is no longer with us), I can appreciate the complexity of the argument for bounds placed on the issue. It goes way beyond firearms and delves into even more sensitive areas such as forced institutionalization, post institutionalization/diagnosis restrictions (including firearms), etc. To pigeon hole this as simply being a firearms issue is to truly stick one's head in the sand about the broader issue involving mental health (take a gander at some of the other threads related to the homeless for example).
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Houston
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This man was so incompetent he didn't even have the presence of mind to call through the door first. He got spooked and he fired. But we must allow him, and all the other idiots who also lack discernment or the mental capacity to handle firearms responsibly--and there are many--to own as many guns as they want. We must not infringe on their right to be incompetent idiots and kill people.

You neatly sidestep that reality because you don't want to admit it's true.
How would you determine beforehand this individual should not have a gun?
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:17 PM
 
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This is tragic. However, even as the bullet is going fast at close range, wouldn't the hard material of a front door potentially block the bullet from going through and potentially have the bullet get stuck in the door in some situations?
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:18 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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If you liberal snowflakes had your way we would not have any rights or freedom.
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:20 PM
 
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Actually thinking of the issue from a logical standpoint (e.g. without having to degenerate into using terms like "fondle"), the two posts that you quote are not related to firearms rights as much as they are related to personal rights regarding mental health. Having known a few folks who've unfortunately suffered from mental health issues (including one who is no longer with us), I can appreciate the complexity of the argument for bounds placed on the issue. It goes way beyond firearms and delves into even more sensitive areas such as forced institutionalization, post institutionalization/diagnosis restrictions (including firearms), etc. To pigeon hole this as simply being a firearms issue is to truly stick one's head in the sand about the broader issue involving mental health (take a gander at some of the other threads related to the homeless for example).
Yeah yeah, it’s always a “complicated” issue. It’s always “we need to look at this more thoroughly “, blah blah blah. Same old excuses. But hey, thoughts & prayers, right?
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:21 PM
 
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If you liberal snowflakes had your way we would not have any rights or freedom.
Says a right winger who wants to allow the government to own women's reproductive systems.

Meanwhile, let's keep letting the mentally incompetent own firearms. What could go wrong, right? (Let's ask this moron's daughter to answer that one.)
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:23 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Well sunshine, you just rendered Taxpayer's post an excellent example of displayed irony, didn't you?

Well moonbeam, seems like you don't like the truth huh?
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:25 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Says a right winger who wants to allow the government to own women's reproductive systems.

Meanwhile, let's keep letting the mentally incompetent own firearms. What could go wrong, right? (Let's ask this moron's daughter to answer that one.)

Thank you for your ignorant reply. Do you know me?? Hell no you don't so don't talk about what you don't know.
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