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Old 05-23-2019, 12:07 PM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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That's the exact argument some are making here. Person A and person B come out of college at the same time. They both get an offer of $60k starting salary. A takes it, B negotiates another $8k. They're both good employees, but B asks for more compensation any time they get new skills or responsibilities, researches market conditions or maybe even interviews elsewhere to get job offers to show their boss that they deserve raises, and thoroughly documents their accomplishments and makes sure their boss knows it at review time. Person A checks "meets expectations" on their annual self-evaluation and is happy with a 3% raise. B starts out at a higher wage, and the gap grows each year. But because they've worked the same job for the same amount of time, people here say they should automatically make the same wage. That anything B negotiates should be given to A out of fairness. It simply doesn't work like that. The company wants to pay you just enough that you won't leave.


exactly
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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That's the exact argument some are making here. Person A and person B come out of college at the same time. They both get an offer of $60k starting salary. A takes it, B negotiates another $8k. They're both good employees, but B asks for more compensation any time they get new skills or responsibilities, researches market conditions or maybe even interviews elsewhere to get job offers to show their boss that they deserve raises, and thoroughly documents their accomplishments and makes sure their boss knows it at review time. Person A checks "meets expectations" on their annual self-evaluation and is happy with a 3% raise. B starts out at a higher wage, and the gap grows each year. But because they've worked the same job for the same amount of time, people here say they should automatically make the same wage. That anything B negotiates should be given to A out of fairness. It simply doesn't work like that. The company wants to pay you just enough that you won't leave.
I totally agree with you.
I dont buy into intentional wage gaps.
It has been shown why women sometimes earn less than men and its for the exact reasons you stated.
I'm sure there has been wage discrimination and that there may be rare cases here and there but we dont live in a perfect world. That is why we have a judicial system, such as it is.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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How about fining feminist that complain about unequal pay in the cozy jobs they want, while ignoring the hardest jobs that don't pay well that are done primarily by men?
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