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Old 05-21-2019, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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"Are they so stupid"? Guess they are. When you expect the entire world to know every version of the everchanging qeeruniverse, and nomenclature, I would say you have an unrealistic expectation of society at large.
The patient stated that he was trans, and had a positive pregnancy test. Do they not know what a trans person is, or do they not know how to deal with people that have a positive pregnancy test?

These are educated people in the medical field, one would assume they knew what a transgendered person is and that they would know what to do in the event of a pregnant person presenting with stomach pains.
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Old 05-21-2019, 05:33 PM
 
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Maybe they missed a few things?

They still say they "rightfully classified him as a man," though it's clear that things would have been done differently, and that there might have been a different outcome (a live rather than stillborn baby) had the patient been classified as female.

But, hey, instead of science, it's all about pretending, and saying things like he gave birth in order to make a point.

We're doomed.

https://www.usatoday.com/amp/3692201002
There was probably a thick fog that creeped into the hospital obscuring vision and this was unavoidable.

Obviously the result of climate change, as all deaths are, and its only going to get worse.
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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If "he" is a male in "his" EMR, does "he" get notified that it's time for a prostate exam?

Does the doctor performing the exam get confused when the "male" patient doesn't have the biology "he" is supposed to have?
You are giving an SJW liberal nagging mother-in-law even more confusion!
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:09 PM
 
Location: USA
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The patient stated that he was trans, and had a positive pregnancy test. Do they not know what a trans person is, or do they not know how to deal with people that have a positive pregnancy test?

These are educated people in the medical field, one would assume they knew what a transgendered person is and that they would know what to do in the event of a pregnant person presenting with stomach pains.
Guess not all people in the Medical field are up to the ever changing world of gender identity and gender diaspora. Maybe those classes aren't mandatory in Med School?
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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So this “male” got pregnant through sexual activity with male that actually had sperm???? Clearly this “male” engaged in sex using their female parts. So does this mean he decided to transition from a female to a gay male that had a vagina? He signed into the hospital as a male, was listed as a male in his medical records - why would anyone be shocked that it never dawned on medical personal to consider he might be pregnant. I am so freaking confused. How, in all that is holy, did we end up in a place where this seems reasonable to anyone?
Well, I'm shocked because he told the nurse that he was "transgender," and that a home pregnancy test was positive. Also, a specific symptom, which could cause complications in pregnancies, was relayed to her.

That's the point, and why they're insisting defensively that "they rightfully classified the patient as male." Because, had they acted on information reflecting reality, rather than being PC in validating that he was "male," the patient would have received what should have been standard treatment for a pregnant female.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The problem with this patient telling them they were a trans man is that physically they weren’t. This person stopped taking testosterone and kept their female reproductive organs. When a nurse hears that a patient is a trans man is she supposed to assume they’ve not completed sex reassignment surgery and are actually a mishmash of male and female characteristics? I agree with middle-aged mom that this patient was probably in denial about their pregnancy. The hospital detected no fetal heartbeat so we have no idea what condition—maybe drinking, drugs, smoking—that could’ve lead to that.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I don't find pronouns confusing at all.

In a hospital, nobody is wandering around looking for the "pregnant lady." That's not how healthcare works. They enter your room/cubicle/whatever and verify who you are based on your bracelet and your verbal self-identification (your last name and birthdate). If a trans man comes in and is pregnant, trust me, the relevant staff is aware of the situation.

Besides, not everyone clearly looks like a man or a woman. There have been plenty of times that I haven't been sure what type of genitalia an individual has. When I first met a new neighbor on my street, the person had a gender-neutral name and... I really couldn't tell. I didn't lose any sleep over it. I guess I actually still wouldn't bet my life on which gender they are (though I think she's a woman); it really doesn't matter. We can have a conversation about the weather or whether a bobcat is dangerous (they're from a city in the north and didn't know that they're not harmful) without me knowing either way. If the neighbor had to go to a hospital and had a gender-specific problem (such as being in labor or bleeding during pregnancy), then it's possible that the staff would not know that she's a woman upon entering her room. Would it be appropriate for them to shrug and walk away or to treat her anyway? That's basically the question on the line here.
Is your neighbor named Pat?
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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"HE" was not pregnant.

Men cannot be pregnant. It's biologically impossible.

SHE was pregnant.
Still can't separate biological sex from gender, can ya?
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Old 05-21-2019, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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How on earth can somebody say "he was pregnant" "he had periods"? Are we totally out of our minds? What the f????
lol
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Old 05-21-2019, 09:54 PM
 
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Are they closing the hole up and sewing on a pecker??

I don’t want to google this
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