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Old 05-20-2019, 06:30 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Mr. Dearlove has some splain'n to do.




https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...topher-steele/




The heads of MI5 and MI6 and one of Mrs May’s most trusted security advisers were told about former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s memos on the Trump campaign in the weeks after his November 2016 election victory.


They actually knew well before November 2016.
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Old 05-20-2019, 10:21 PM
 
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So, confirming that the British were in on it, is not big news...
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Old 05-21-2019, 04:20 AM
 
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Mr. Dearlove has some splain'n to do.




https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...topher-steele/




The heads of MI5 and MI6 and one of Mrs May’s most trusted security advisers were told about former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s memos on the Trump campaign in the weeks after his November 2016 election victory.


They actually knew well before November 2016.
Sir Richard Dearliove retired from British Inteligence on the 6 May 2004, which I think was a little bit before Steele's Dossier, indeed Steele left himself in 2009 and wet on to set up a Business Intelligence Consultancy. Also according to media reports Mueller interviewed Steele as part of his report.

Steele actually did meet with former senior joint intelligence chief, Sir Charles Farr at his home in Wimbledon, however sadly Farr recently died of cancer aged 59.

Farr at the time contacted Andrew Parker, the director general of MI5, as well as Alex Younger, the chief of MI6, were briefed on the contents of the dossier sometime around late November, and it was known about, however the Prime Minister Theresa May herself was not briefed on it, and Steele contacted others including the FBI to exoress his concerns.

Steele had every rght to express and pass on his concerns given the intel he had received from his various sources, however the FBI were more concerned with intelligence they were receiving from actual western spy agencies and from the Australian High Commisioner and it was this rather than the unverified dossier that was used as the basis for a FISA request.

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Old 05-21-2019, 06:08 AM
 
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Sir Richard Dearliove retired from British Inteligence on the 6 May 2004, which I think was a little bit before Steele's Dossier, indeed Steele left himself in 2009 and wet on to set up a Business Intelligence Consultancy. Also according to media reports Mueller interviewed Steele as part of his report.

Steele actually did meet with former senior joint intelligence chief, Sir Charles Farr at his home in Wimbledon, however sadly Farr recently died of cancer aged 59.

Farr at the time contacted Andrew Parker, the director general of MI5, as well as Alex Younger, the chief of MI6, were briefed on the contents of the dossier sometime around late November, and it was known about, however the Prime Minister Theresa May herself was not briefed on it, and Steele contacted others including the FBI to exoress his concerns.

Steele had every rght to express and pass on his concerns given the intel he had received from his various sources, however the FBI were more concerned with intelligence they were receiving from actual western spy agencies and from the Australian High Commisioner and it was this rather than the unverified dossier that was used as the basis for a FISA request.



Might be why the guys at his old job knew, before anyone else.
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:18 AM
 
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Might be why the guys at his old job knew, before anyone else.
Steele knows people in British Intelligence, as he used to work for MI6, however his dossier was dow to Orbis his own private business intelligence company.

In terms of passing on intelligence, anyone can pass on concerns, I could ring British Intelligence and report suspicious activity to them relating to terrorism at any time. They would evaluate the intelligence provided and act accordingly.

Report suspicious activity to MI5 - GOV.UK

Steele passed on his concerns but no action was taken, the Prime Minister wasn't informed and in terms of FISA it has already been stated that it wasn't based on Steele's report which could not be verified, it was based oin other signals intelligence from western allies and concerns raised by the Australian High Commisioner.



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Old 05-21-2019, 06:20 AM
 
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Steele knows people in British Intelligence, as he used to work for MI6, however his dossier was dow to Orbis his own private business intelligence company.

In terms of passing on intelligence, anyone can pass on concerns, I could ring British Intelligence and report suspicious activity to them relating to terrorism at any time. They would evaluate the intelligence provided and act accordingly.

Report suspicious activity to MI5 - GOV.UK

Steele passed on his concerns but no action was taken, the Prime Minister wasn't informed and in terms of FISA it has already been stated that it wasn't based on Steele's report which could not be verified, it was based oin other signals intelligence from western allies and concerns raised by the Australian High Commisioner.




You mean the Golden File, that Nunes and Gowdy have stated is worse than the Dossier on on verified hearsay.
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:54 AM
 
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Yep, I have long time suspected the British had their dirty little fingers in this all along. I think they were freaking out after Trump suggested the US should leave NATO.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:00 AM
 
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You mean the Golden File, that Nunes and Gowdy have stated is worse than the Dossier on on verified hearsay.
That's funny because neither Nunes nor Gowdy has any access to British Intelligence, and in terms of the US Investigation that was down to the FBI.

Trump did accuse GCHQ of wiretapping him, however this was denied publically by both GCHQ and the British Prime Minister, who called it ridiculous.

Trump repeats unproven claims of GCHQ spying | UK news | The Guardian

Trump repeats claims that GCHQ spied on his campaign in 2016 - Sky News

GCHQ is the equivalent of the US NSA and is a signals intelligence agency and far from wire tapping Mr Trump, they expressed concerns as did numerous other western intelligence agencies at the fact that Russian contacts that they reguarly observed as part of their intelligence role were in fact in contact with the Trump campaign.

It should be noted that GCHQ have a close woring relationship with US Intelligence and other five eyes countries, as well as with many European Intelligence Agencies.

The US might have copies of intelligence concerns raised by the UK (GCHQ), Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security (DGSE).

British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia | The Guardian


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Old 05-21-2019, 07:11 AM
 
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Yep, I have long time suspected the British had their dirty little fingers in this all along. I think they were freaking out after Trump suggested the US should leave NATO.
If Trump feels this is the case, then he should of course imediately cancel is upcoming state visit to the UK, and should ptoduce the evidence to back up his claims.

If there is evidence then surely there must be a review security arrangements between the US and other intelligence agencies.

Trump won't even release his tax returns never mind any evidence backing up ridiculous allegations.

The truth is he's hiding behind lawyers, trying to stop Congrss from holding him to account and is just tweeting total nonsense in order to try and deflect from the real issues.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:14 AM
 
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Payback is great.

May's government is collapsing. Her rivals are circling now. And ironically because she didn't take Trump's advice on how to deal with Merkel & Macron over BRexit. She turned the UK into their *****. A complete humiliation.

Trump will eventually win this. It was an attempt at a coup at the duly elected President of the USA by the GWO which May happily belongs to. Trump has beaten them all. Oh and I do expect the mostly neutered Democrats in the USA will keep trying.
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