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Again, the AGW crowd talks about CO2 of 420 ppm. However, the 280 ppm prior to the industrialization of man was just peachy. Of that 140 ppm increase only 9ppm is attributed to man.
Link to support your assertion that only 5% of the 140 ppm increase since the start of the industrial revolution is due to man?
1. a higher global annual average... lets say 10'f over where we are today....would be about 69'f..ie the climate of Hawaii... (the average interglacial period was about 72-75'f)
2. warmer is also more tropical...better for growing, and less need for irrigation
3. people live and thrive in areas like Kuwait with temps reaching 140'f...and we are talking average annual global of 74ish degrees
4. colder (glacial) would not be good for humans at all
Actually, I agree with you on this: global warming might not be all bad.
So at least let's stop arguing about whether the earth is warming (it is) and whether it is caused by human activity (it is) and move on to debate what, if anything, should be done about it. Maybe the smartest thing an individual can do is buy stock in companies that make air conditioners
This is simply the biggest hoax the world has ever seen.....we have the white shop coats who depend on research grants jumping in and "cooking the books" on the temp computer runs......then the big crooks of the UN see the power grab potential on a colossal scale and they can vacuum the pockets of the wealthy countries and dole it out to the "challenged" folks posing for PR shots with gaunt faces burned by a heat wave. Of course an enormous amount of cash is siphoned off by the corrupt at every step of the way.......you put a $100K in one end of the GW pipeline and at the other end you have a guy in pickup going out and planting ten trees......
Just like the barkers at a circus, sling enough excrement at the wall some of it will stick........
Pure drivel with no facts offered to support it. Best let the grownups discuss this topic.
Gotta chuckle when cold = AGW. So the little ice age was because of AGW?
No, of course not. Cold weather does happen due to natural climate forcings, of course. What was unusual about last winter is that there were hot north pole events and cold U.S. events during the same season. That phenomenon has been happening for several years, and there is an AGW mechanism to explain it.
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It could be real. The problem is billions of dollars are pushing one narrative with any counter arguments quickly squashed.
What you have is billions of petro-dollars from U.S., Saudi and Russian interests who have been stirring the anti-climate pot for years. It's all about the benjamins, baby.
The solar minimum, which could last 20-40 years, is producing lower temperatures and "late" snowfalls in the west and Midwest with late May snow storms.
With the falling of temps and increased snowfall, will this dampen the enthusiasm for AGW? How will the AGW "stoke the flames" and keep enthusiasm up for the premise when the nation is faced with continued cold temps and record snowfalls?
Summer will save the day temporarily, where "record temps" can be sited for every day above 90 degrees, but eventually those pesky cold winters and snowfall will return.
Can AGW carry on in spite of lower temps?
Solar minimums caused by AGW. Anything about the climate is caused by AGW according to the ravings of the climate nazis.
Actually, I agree with you on this: global warming might not be all bad.
So at least let's stop arguing about whether the earth is warming (it is) and whether it is caused by human activity (it is) and move on to debate what, if anything, should be done about it. Maybe the smartest thing an individual can do is buy stock in companies that make air conditioners
the best first move is to stop building cities on or below the sealevel.... New Orleans for example
New Orleans was originally settled on the river's natural levees or high ground
The average elevation of the city is currently between 1 foot (0.30 m) and 2 feet (0.61 m) below sea level, with some portions of the city as high as 20 feet (6 m) at the base of the river levee in Uptown, and others as low as 7 feet (2 m) below sea level in the farthest reaches of e.NOLA
kinda stupid to build right at, slightly below or within 5 feet of sealevel.....knowing that storm surges, etc happen..... its flooding waiting to happen.......and IF, IF the sea-level is going to rise any significant level...its really poor planning...even with modern levees, sea-walls and dams
LOL, that web site is fake science and fake news. It's junk. I chuckled at it.
As CO2 rises, temperature rises, the water vapor capacity of the air rises, water vapor creates more warming. CO2 is the dog that wags the water vapor tail.
If water vapor caused global warming, we would have gone Venus billions of years ago. It can't warm the planet by itself because the air always sheds excess water vapor as rain and snow.
It's the "hot north pole cold continents" pattern, consistent with AGW. The thinking is that the unusual heat waves at the pole (30, 40 or more degrees warmer than normal) weakens the polar vortex, which allows cold arctic air to escape and sag south into the U.S., Europe and Siberia.
The colder the north pole, the stronger the vortex, which makes a stronger "fence" to hold the cold air up in the Arctic.
From a scientific paper published in 2016:
"With the Arctic at record warm levels, the 9 years between 2007 and 2015 have exhibited the lowest minimum sea ice extents recorded in September since satellite observations began, with an all‐time record low in 2007 followed by another in 2012. Several of these seven winters following the low sea ice minima have been unusually cold across the Northern Hemisphere ... The most highly publicized proposed theory is that a warming Arctic results in a wavier polar vortex, leading to enhanced atmospheric blocking that often spawns extreme weather events..."
Man-made climate change is clearly modifying and corrupting normal weather patterns in all sorts of ways, worldwide. Record floods, record rainfall, record droughts, record cyclones and hurricanes, record heat waves.
The question is, can climate denial carry on in spite of all of the mounting evidence that AGW is real?
Consistent with the made up science.
That’s the nice thing about a made up science, everything fits.
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