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Old 05-22-2019, 09:49 PM
 
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Could you please explain why it doesnít apply?
I don't want to answer for TexasLawyer (since I'm not a lawyer), but the obvious part to me is that there's no search or seizure of private belongings here.
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Old 05-22-2019, 09:55 PM
 
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It's kind of scary that a State Legislature can pass any law they want against the Constitution and get away with it. Whether you're a Trump supporter or not, this is a very important issue. If they do it to him, they can also do it to you. Tax returns are considered confidential information unless there is a legal reason they need to be seen, not just because House Democrats want to see what's in them without any evidence of a crime. If this is the case, wouldn't it be interesting to see some of the tax returns of our Congressional staff that make around $200,000/yr and live like millionaires.
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Old 05-22-2019, 09:58 PM
Status: "Trumpism is a mental disorder" (set 8 days ago)
 
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Maybe its better that Congress isn't being productive. Last I checked, they were all about restricting rights rather than restoring them. With that, keep on keeping on. You're a bunch of rockstars. Orange Man Bad!!!!!!111!!1!
That's intelligent.

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Economy is doing pretty well, last I checked. Do you have any ideas that might help to improve the economy? I'm all ears. Seriously. My wife called me Dumbo tonight.
The economy is massively unstable right now. You know who pays import tariffs? You do. We all do. It's a tax whose funds are distributed to American companies. Ironic as hell considering Trump does this while railing on socialism, because that EXACTLY what tariffs are. Socialism. Oh, and he wants to bail out farmers now with a few billion of our money. Yep, socialism again.

The Federal Deficit is the biggest in history and growing faster than ever. Thanks to tax cuts for the rich and for corporations, who by the way didn't need any breaks.

And bully for you, your taxes went down. MINE WENT UP.

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The environment in the US is doesn't seem to be in any grave danger. Personally, I carry trashbags when I'm on the water to pick up any garbage that I see that was left behind by inconsiderate boaters. In seriousness, the real dangers to our environment, globally, aren't coming from the US. Look at developing countries and China and a few others and you'll see where a majority of eco-unfriendly stuff comes from. The US seems to hold itself to a much higher standard than those who give no f's. I guess Carbon Credits would be the answer, right?
Good for you for picking up after your fellow boaters. We do too. You fish? How do you like Trump gutting the clean water act so that coal companies can dump mining waste in streams and kill the fish. You good with that? Ever go to the coast? You do know that Federal judges had to stop Trump's ambitious plans to allow off-shore drilling in marine sanctuaries. Right? https://insideclimatenews.org/news/2...ng-nepa-ruling

Here's an article by the National Geographic with 15 ways that Trump is impacting the environment. Please have a read and we can talk more. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/e...d-environment/

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Ahh, the "fleecing of our democracy." I keep hearing this line but I have not seen anyone willing to step up to the plate and, in detail, explain how this is happening. Obstruction? Of what? Collusion? Mueller said no to that.

The only fleecing of our country is the seeming willingness of so many on the left to open our borders and screw the people who actually pay taxes.
Open borders is a right-wing lie. You can't show one Democrat lawmaker calling for any such thing. By all accounts the illegals who have made it across the border contribute more than they take anyway. Unlike the fascist scumbag you worship.

Since you haven't been keeping up, there are now accounting firm records that show Trump has fleeced tax payers out of millions by undervaluing assets, while at the same time committing bank fraud by inflating those same assets. Got that? Accounting records. So spare us the witch hunt BS. That's why the courts are granting a subpoena to get the rest of the accounting firm's records. They are most likely in big trouble as well.

And Trump moving huge amounts of money through Deutche Bank who does business with Russia. Given Trump's absolute refusal to divest himself of his business during his presidency, aren't you just the teeniest bit curious to know what the hell those are about? Come on now, don't lie.

So yeah, every minute that Trump is tied up in investigations is a minute where he's not f'ing over the planet.
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Old 05-22-2019, 09:59 PM
 
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It's kind of scary that a State Legislature can pass any law they want against the Constitution and get away with it.
What part of the Constitution is this against?
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:02 PM
Status: "Trumpism is a mental disorder" (set 8 days ago)
 
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It's kind of scary that a State Legislature can pass any law they want against the Constitution and get away with it. Whether you're a Trump supporter or not, this is a very important issue. If they do it to him, they can also do it to you. Tax returns are considered confidential information unless there is a legal reason they need to be seen, not just because House Democrats want to see what's in them without any evidence of a crime. If this is the case, wouldn't it be interesting to see some of the tax returns of our Congressional staff that make around $200,000/yr and live like millionaires.
There is evidence. You just having been keeping up.
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I hate to burst your bubble, but every president in recent history has released their taxes when running for office. And they did so voluntarily, so there was no law about it. But laws get written when criminals find new ways to rig the system, so here we are.


You are woefully out of touch. Try reading (or watching) something other than Fox News once in a while.



I suppose I am woefully out of touch. What would you recommend I watch? Would CNN be better? MSNBC, perhaps? Would it surprise you that I don't take my news from any of the above, and that I do like to try to get things from all points of view?



I'll ask again; what do you expect to find in his tax returns? This is an honest question and I would appreciate an honest answer.



The fact that other candidates and, ultimately Presidents, have released their returns means nothing. The majority of this country doesn't understand what they are filing while rushing out to get their refund, be it Turbo Tax, H&R Block, etc. Much of the remaining folk out there don't understand what their CPA files on their behalf. God knows I'm baffled by mine. But we should absolutely trust the reporting of an opinion host on a cable TV show? I guess many will be happy to hear if Trump only gave 4% to charity while they gave 5% or just took the standard deduction. How many would be told that Trump may have given 4% of $600,000,000 (not saying he made that by any means, only for illustrative purposes). It's the same BS line that Warren Buffet pays a lower PERCENTAGE than his secretary. Compare actual dollars instead of percentages and then get back to us.



The point is, having Trump's tax filings does nothing more than give a bunch of overpaid anchors something to further their political points of view. They will likely be mis-represented or touted as some bombshell just like Maddow did a year or two ago. Do you remember the hype leading up to that letdown?


All of this is theater.
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:07 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What part of the Constitution is this against?
4th & 5th Amendments.
Government cannot just go snooping in a private citizens personal papers and effects.
The 2 years he has been President, they have full access to and should as GOVERNMENT oversight.
That is why we the people only allow a few select people with the authority to secure our papers and effects.
You people are Marxist Commies.
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:14 PM
 
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4th & 5th Amendments.
Government cannot just go snooping in a private citizens personal papers and effects.
The 2 years he has been President, they have full access to and should as GOVERNMENT oversight.
That is why we the people only allow a few select people with the authority to secure our papers and effects.
You people are Marxist Commies.
Suspected criminal activity gets investigated. Suck it up.
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:15 PM
 
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Suspected criminal activity gets investigated. Suck it up.
really? No actually you can't just demand to look at anything you want just because you "suspect" something.
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:18 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Suspected criminal activity gets investigated. Suck it up.
Was is the RAS?
Where is the probable cause?
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