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Old 05-22-2019, 09:44 PM
 
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By this statement, you obviously know nothing about free market. If there was no China to manufacture a cell phone, somebody else would have filled the void. No cell phones would ever cost $2000. If it did then cell phones would never have become popular. That's how the free market works.
Obviously you know nothing about economics.
China is by far the largest cell phone market AND the largest cell phone manufacturer in the world. Without China you have to make much more profits per item to maintain the R&D cost and so on, and the profits have to be made over high labor cost.

No, few if any countries in the world have cheap labor AND good infrastructures AND hardworking workers AND decent engineers AND stable society/politics.
So it is not easy to replace China.
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Old 05-22-2019, 09:49 PM
 
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Cheap manufacturing destroyed America.

It made non-necessary utilities cheap making Americans materialistic (moreso) and destroy small towns across the country and local communities.

It enslaved Chinese people in factor and forced them off their land, now China's culture is being destroyed even worse than during the cultural revolution.

It was an unmitigated disaster.
China enslaving farmers in factory is totally BS.
Hello this is 2019 and you should go there to take a look before spreading rumors.
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Old 05-22-2019, 09:50 PM
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Location: Manchester NH
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China enslaving farmers in factory is totally BS.
Hello this is 2019 and you should go there to take a look before spreading rumors.
Yes and it happened.

Now China is a horrible place.
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:23 PM
 
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Yes and it happened.

Now China is a horrible place.
Western propaganda keeps portraying a negative image of China, but if you watch vlogs made by Americans living there, most are pretty positive.

All surveys (made by different countries) find Chinese people happier than most other Asians.
For example:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:27 PM
 
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I speak Mandarin fluently.
News flash !!!
A lot of Communist Chinese do too.
They know what they need to say to not run afoul of the state.
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:41 PM
 
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News flash !!!
A lot of Communist Chinese do too.
They know what they need to say to not run afoul of the state.
At least many of them are bilingual and watch two cultures closely. Can't say the same for many posters here.
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Old 05-22-2019, 11:38 PM
 
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**** China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lychee..._Meat_Festival
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/m...s-of-yulin-991
Yulin Festival: China Dog Meat Eating Event Sparks Backlash | Time
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Old 05-23-2019, 01:15 AM
 
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From your link:
Millions of Chinese voted in support of a legislative proposal by Zhen Xiaohe, a deputy to the National People’s Congress of China, to ban the dog meat trade.[11] Chinese celebrities such as Fan Bingbing, Chen Kun, Sun Li and Yang Mi have publicly expressed a distaste for the festival.[
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Old 05-23-2019, 04:40 AM
 
Location: NY
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China is a totalitarian,surveillance,mercantilism business model.
State capitalism with Big government.


Conquer or be Conquered.
Eat or be Eaten.
Learn it. Live it.
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Old 05-23-2019, 04:53 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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The same thing has been said to Canada, Mexico, Europe, Japan, South Korea...
"Unfair" is subjective and depends on your stance.

China made it very clear that they trade their market with foreign technology. Now some companies regret and want to break it.
They never knew China could learn so fast.
Mexico is 1.24 to 1 trade imbalance.

China is 4.49 to 1.

Canada is 1.03 to 1
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