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Old 05-26-2019, 06:25 AM
 
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That was in response to Merseyrail taking a Morrisey advert down.

In terms of stores censoring items according to their own taste is a slippery slope and the same is true of on-line providers such as Amazon.

Surely in a democracy, you don't just ban someone because they have a different view or indeed deplatform them.

I also hope they are going to be consistent, and remove Eric Clapton who once made a drunken declaration of support for former Conservative minister Enoch Powell (known for his anti-immigration Rivers of Blood speech) at a concert and David Bowie who expressed support for fascism and admiration for Adolf Hitler in interviews with Playboy, NME and a Swedish publication. Bowie was quoted as saying: "I think Britain could benefit from a fascist leader". Whilst Bryan Ferry once stated in an interview with a German newspaper, that he praised Nazi iconography as “just amazing” and “really beautiful”.

Are we therefore going to see all Cream Records and Clapton records banned, what about banning all Bowie Singles and Albums while you are at it, and of course all Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry's music will also have to go, if you are applying the same rules.

What about banning all music unless you agree with the politics of the musician or don't agree with sub-cultures such as punk or skinhead ska.
There is no call for a ban. You are making stuff up.
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Old 05-26-2019, 06:29 AM
 
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^^^ Ayn Rand has spoken!
LMAO! Can't rep you again!
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Old 05-26-2019, 06:35 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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There is no call for a ban. You are making stuff up.
The shop is banning sales of Morrisey records and Merseyrail are banning a picture of Morrissey from station advertising.

In which case why not go through all the artists and look at what they have said, perhaps Ted Nugent should also face a ban on his recod sales because the record shop doesn't like his poltics.

It's a dangerous road to go down, and the refusal of the left in relation to even debating impoprtant matters and silecing and deplatforming is pathetic and frightening at the same time.

Just because someone has a different opinion does not mean they should be banned from shops or advertising, and this is especially the case when the person is a singer and not a poltician.

The left also seem to want to target traditional songs and classics such as 'Baby It's Cold Outside' or even Jingle Bells, and numerous other songs, and it's becoming ever more pathetic imho.
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Old 05-26-2019, 06:50 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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So it would be okay for Amazon, to only sell goods that represent Jeff Bezos own personal views and opinions rather than sell a wide selection that represents differing views ad opinions.
Would it be okay for the WaPo, to only print stories that represent Jeff Bezos' own personal views and opinions, rather than print an objective view of the news that represents differing views and opinions?
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Old 05-26-2019, 06:55 AM
 
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The shop is banning sales of Morrisey records and Merseyrail are banning a picture of Morrissey from station advertising.

In which case why not go through all the artists and look at what they have said, perhaps Ted Nugent should also face a ban on his recod sales because the record shop doesn't like his poltics.

It's a dangerous road to go down, and the refusal of the left in relation to even debating impoprtant matters and silecing and deplatforming is pathetic and frightening at the same time.

Just because someone has a different opinion does not mean they should be banned from shops or advertising, and this is especially the case when the person is a singer and not a poltician.

The left also seem to want to target traditional songs and classics such as 'Baby It's Cold Outside' or even Jingle Bells, and numerous other songs, and it's becoming ever more pathetic imho.
Meh -- the left aren't the only ones wanting to ban things.

You just feel more threatened with the left banning, boycotting, not liking what you like.
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Old 05-26-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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Lesson from the elites: Do as you're told and toe the line or lose it all!
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Old 05-26-2019, 07:06 AM
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Meh -- the left aren't the only ones wanting to ban things.

You just feel more threatened with the left banning, boycotting, not liking what you like.
No I don't, I just feel that you shouldn't just ban books or music because you have a different view to the author or singer.

Radio playlists were often criticised for being narrow minded, indeed the Clash 1977 track Capital Radio, was an attack on the music policy of what was (at the time) London's only legal commercial music radio station, which played mainstream chart hits and little if any punk. It mentions the station's then-Head of Music, Aiden Day.

Capital Radio One - Wikipedia




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Old 05-26-2019, 07:17 AM
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Whilst Rammstein's latest release 'Radio', which is about the role radio played in their lives growing up in Left Wing Communist East Germany, where they used to hide under the covers and listen to western radio stations. The secret polices batons in the video prove useless against the western radio waves.

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Old 05-26-2019, 07:43 AM
 
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Would it be okay for the WaPo, to only print stories that represent Jeff Bezos' own personal views and opinions, rather than print an objective view of the news that represents differing views and opinions?
You're comparing Freedom of the Press (which is protected by the Constitution) to banning commercial music, lol.

The First Amendment doesn't apply to private businesses. And even if it did, it doesn't cover political affiliation.
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Old 05-26-2019, 10:52 AM
 
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Would it be okay for the WaPo, to only print stories that represent Jeff Bezos' own personal views and opinions, rather than print an objective view of the news that represents differing views and opinions?
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You're comparing Freedom of the Press (which is protected by the Constitution) to banning commercial music, lol.

The First Amendment doesn't apply to private businesses. And even if it did, it doesn't cover political affiliation.
you didn’t answer the question.
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