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View Poll Results: Which party helps the homeless and poor the most?
Republicans 47 54.65%
Democrats 39 45.35%
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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Yea, but abortion is illegal so no turning around now. they are screwed. and yea, stupid child to be chosen to be born.
I am for forced sterilization on stupid people. Only stupid people expect others to raise their child.
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I am for forced sterilization on stupid people. Only stupid people expect others to raise their child.
Yes, not Fascist or Communist at all!
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:43 PM
 
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Guess you don't care for the poor. Sad state of society we are in where people don't care for their brothers and sisters. Jesus would be so proud!
Immediately steered towards personal attack, didn’t you?

Do you care about the poor? How much money do you give to the poor voluntarily?

It’s evil to force others to pay for your compassion.

Did Jesus say you could do that?
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Do you? How much money do you give to the poor voluntarily?

It’s evil to force others to pay for your compassion.

Did Jesus say you could do that?
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Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.
Proverbs 14:31

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Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will reward them for what they have done.
Proverbs 19:17
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:45 PM
 
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Proverbs 14:31


Proverbs 19:17
Did Jesus say you can force others to pay for your compassion?

If he did, he’s just the devil.
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Did Jesus say you can force others to pay for your compassion?

If he did, he’s just the devil.
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The generous will themselves be blessed, for they share their food with the poor.
Proverbs 22:9

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Those who give to the poor will lack nothing, but those who close their eyes to them receive many curses.
Proverbs 28:27
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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Most homeless people have mental and addiction problems.

Most poor people are stuck in a vicious cycle which they will not escape if they don't have the avenues through which they can better themselves....which is affordable education, subsidized daycare, low cost housing, etc.

The reason the U.S has the largest poverty rate in the developed world is because these important essential services are not easily available and so the vicious cycle of poverty continues.

So giving tax cuts to the rich and de-regulations is not going to help their situations, despite what talk radio spoon feeds you every day.
If they're poor, why are they having children?
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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If they're poor, why are they having children?
Most (not all) children aren't "planned" per se, if you don't know that, then you're naive
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Old 05-26-2019, 04:05 PM
 
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Most families getting food stamps DO work.** It's just that they have low-paying dead-end jobs. If the parents could get a better job, they would; in some cases, they just don't have the skills.

So let's say we go with your plan and stop providing EBT benefits and free lunch to their kids at school. And let's say that the working poor parents (many time it's just one parent and usually when that is the case, it's the mother) can't make up the extra funds to feed them without skipping out on their rent. What do you think the real-life consequences of this would be and what do you think should be done about it?

I'm thinking the consequences will be:

-hungry children
-hungry mom
-homelessness (in cases where mom pays for food rather than rent)

Solutions:

-just let kids be hungry (keeping in mind that they will do poorly in school, steal, get into fights, need more medical are, etc.)
-bring back child labor and put those kids to work

??

Since you're against feeding hungry kids, I'm not sure what other solutions you'd find acceptable. Helping mom get the education she needs for a better job is a great long-term solution, but it doesn't feed hungry bellies in the meantime. Also, people against feeding kids are also usually against providing childcare... so I guess mom wouldn't be able to go to school anyway, since she'd be working while the kids were at school.

Maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way, though, and you have a solution in mind.

** Source: https://www.cbpp.org/research/policy...e-program-snap
If they have low paying dead end jobs, and don't have the skills to get a better job, why do they think it is okay to have kids?
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Old 05-26-2019, 04:12 PM
 
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Most (not all) children aren't "planned" per se, if you don't know that, then you're naive
That's a rationalization to excuse irresponsibility.

1. Abortion is legal

2. If people don't wan't to/ don't believe in utilizing #1 as a backup to failed birth control....sex isn't like food or water. People don't have to have it to live.
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