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Old 05-25-2019, 06:01 PM
 
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"Moral leader" LMAO
"immoral leader" would be more appropriate.
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:45 PM
 
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Why would a person of conscience care what the abortion loving left says about a woman's "choice" to kill her baby? Hint: we don't
And you should not. You should decide for yourself, your wife and your kids, etc......

We agree..fully.

So, don't listen to preachers and don't listen to me either. Think. Then follow the Rule of Law.
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:51 PM
 
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He is right. Abortion loving Dems need to wake up and listen to the Pope. The Pope is the moral leader of the world and his teachings must be adhered to, even by far left.
This is news, that the Pope is against abortion?

No, Dems should not listen to the Pope. If you want a theocracy, move to another country. And he is not the "moral leader of the world," just because you follow him. And Popes are not necessarily moral leaders as you must know from WWII, for instance.
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Old 05-26-2019, 07:51 AM
 
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My ruptured ectopic pregnancy in a Catholic Hospital. Shooting pain down to my leg and very heavy bleeding. Doctor suspected ectopic pregnancy and tried to get me into a Non-Section Hospital but no beds available. "I hate to do this to you but no other choice". Had no idea at the time. He said he could come to hospital as soon as he could.

He ordered a sonogram, I be put on an IV, and my blood pressure monitored. I got nothing. Pregnancy test instead (came back negative). "We don't do abortions here", nurse said. Then I was left there alone. I could feel myself drifting off. No, cannot do that. I got up and walked the hallways for hours. Nurses gave me dirty looks and I gave it back to them. They did not give me so much as a sanitary pad. I stuffed paper towels in my panties.

When my doctor came and saw me walking the halls, he started screaming at all the hospital staff. It was only then that his orders were followed. The sonogram showed that my tube had ruptured and I had massive internal bleeding. Did they care about my life? No, only a dead 7 week embryo.

I don't remember this, but the woman in my room said after I was wheeled back from surgery, I was screaming, "You are not going to KILL ME". "I will live to see my little daughter grow up".

"Miracle" they said that I hadn't gone into a coma. I did not want to see any Priest but he came anyway. Said he knew I was bitter about losing my baby. No, Father, I am bitter about you almost killing me. For WHAT? You cannot abort an already dead baby.

Just thought I would share my experience in the hope that no woman ever has to go through something like this. BTW, my daughter is now 40 years old and a mother herself. She was only 3 at the time but remember it well as the day Mom almost died.
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Old 05-26-2019, 07:53 AM
 
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He is right. Abortion loving Dems need to wake up and listen to the Pope. The Pope is the moral leader of the world and his teachings must be adhered to, even by far left.
Dems aren't abortion loving. I don't know anyone how "loves" abortion. And no, the Pope's teachings do not have to be adhered to. He's not the king. Amazing the Pope rails against abortion yet refuses to do anything about those accused of molestation. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Old 05-26-2019, 08:57 AM
 
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Dems aren't abortion loving. I don't know anyone how "loves" abortion. And no, the Pope's teachings do not have to be adhered to. He's not the king. Amazing the Pope rails against abortion yet refuses to do anything about those accused of molestation. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Well, legalized 'murder' is a much greater problem than molestation by some priests!
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Old 05-26-2019, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Houston
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My ruptured ectopic pregnancy in a Catholic Hospital. Shooting pain down to my leg and very heavy bleeding. Doctor suspected ectopic pregnancy and tried to get me into a Non-Section Hospital but no beds available. "I hate to do this to you but no other choice". Had no idea at the time. He said he could come to hospital as soon as he could.

He ordered a sonogram, I be put on an IV, and my blood pressure monitored. I got nothing. Pregnancy test instead (came back negative). "We don't do abortions here", nurse said. Then I was left there alone. I could feel myself drifting off. No, cannot do that. I got up and walked the hallways for hours. Nurses gave me dirty looks and I gave it back to them. They did not give me so much as a sanitary pad. I stuffed paper towels in my panties.

When my doctor came and saw me walking the halls, he started screaming at all the hospital staff. It was only then that his orders were followed. The sonogram showed that my tube had ruptured and I had massive internal bleeding. Did they care about my life? No, only a dead 7 week embryo.

I don't remember this, but the woman in my room said after I was wheeled back from surgery, I was screaming, "You are not going to KILL ME". "I will live to see my little daughter grow up".

"Miracle" they said that I hadn't gone into a coma. I did not want to see any Priest but he came anyway. Said he knew I was bitter about losing my baby. No, Father, I am bitter about you almost killing me. For WHAT? You cannot abort an already dead baby.

Just thought I would share my experience in the hope that no woman ever has to go through something like this. BTW, my daughter is now 40 years old and a mother herself. She was only 3 at the time but remember it well as the day Mom almost died.
Yes, and I was kidnapped by Planned Parenthood and forced to abort my nearly full term fetus just because I was black.
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Old 05-26-2019, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The ephebophile (not pedophile scandal) certainly give the Catholic haters an excuse to spread their anti-Catholic bigotry.

The Pope is actually a leftist on economic issues and the death penalty. The Catholic church has a consistent policy on the sacredness of life.
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Old 05-26-2019, 10:48 AM
 
Location: London
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Well, legalized 'murder' is a much greater problem than molestation by some priests!
Anyone who seriously thinks molestation is better than abortions should be on a list so I make sure I never move my family anywhere near them when we adopt one day.
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Old 05-26-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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For the OPs information, even religious conservative women have abortions
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