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If we won we would not still be there fighting 17 years on. There is nothing to win there. All we did was spread the destabilization.
What if destabilization was the private end goal?
It fuels the MIC.
Also, one of the most touted reasons fed to the public, is removing Saddam and bringing freedom, democracy and peace to the region. On that instance it was an utter failure because of the number of new terrorists and market bombings it created as well as destabilizing the rest of the region.
We need to listen less to what politicians and the corporate media are feeding us and watch what they have done and are doing.
Right now they are playing the same game with Iran by softening them with sanctions and magnifying every word they speak in defiance to this as a threat to us via the corporate media.
Once we placed sanctions on Iran, I consider anything they do is out of defense.
That does not mean I side with Iran, it means I see the game for what it is.
If you block my driveway with your car so I can not go trade or buy from others, then I have every right to blow up your car.
What if destabilization was the private end goal?
It fuels the MIC.
I suppose some does see it that way.
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Also, one of the most touted reasons fed to the public, is removing Saddam and bringing freedom, democracy and peace to the region. On that instance it was an utter failure because of the number of new terrorists and market bombings it created as well as destabilizing the rest of the region.
We need to listen less to what politicians and the corporate media are feeding us and watch what they have done and are doing.
Right now they are playing the same game with Iran by softening them with sanctions and magnifying every word they speak in defiance to this as a threat to us via the corporate media.
Once we placed sanctions on Iran, I consider anything they do is out of defense.
That does not mean I side with Iran, it means I see the game for what it is.
If you block my driveway with your car so I can not go trade or buy from others, then I have every right to blow up your car.
You don't re-elect them and you throw their party out of power. Neither Bush nor Obama should have ever been re-elected. The reason politicians do as you say is because they know they will never be held accountable.
No way Ron Paul does what Bush and Obama did.
How much were you paid for your vote?
I agree with this but it proves how effective the corporate media is and how brainwashed Americans are.
Is that your definition of won? I guess we've lost the battle against thieves and murderers because after hundreds of years we still have police in the streets fighting criminals.
Umm we lost.
How about the war on poverty.
The mission statement says to end hunger and homelessness and yet 500,000 people are homeless in this country.
A record number btw.
From what i read and am told by Iranian friends, all we need to do is wait. The regime will die off. The many educated women in Iran will have a profound influence on the next leaders.
From what i read and am told by Iranian friends, all we need to do is wait. The regime will die off. The many educated women in Iran will have a profound influence on the next leaders.
From what i read and am told by Iranian friends, all we need to do is wait. The regime will die off. The many educated women in Iran will have a profound influence on the next leaders.
Could be a pipe dream. But they may be right.
The new leaders need to be friendly to US interests and allow us to build a base in their country in order to act as a counterbalance against Russia and China.
So, the chances of that happening are pretty slim.
If I was Iran, I would be asking Russia or China for some nuclear weapons to protect my country.
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