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Old 05-29-2019, 09:18 AM
 
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Obviously trump obstructed, that was made very clear. That little ditty that presidents canmot be indicted while in office needs to change, immediately.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:18 AM
 
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I think this is a prelude to the IG report coming out that is going to totally crush dems & the deep state.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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"If we had confidence that the President did not commit a crime we would have said so."

Special Counsel Mueller



The Mueller report did not exonerate Trump as it made no definitive judgements. Barr and DJT have been perpetuating the lie of exoneration since it was completed.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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Well that was a nothing burger. We may not of heard the last of Mr Mueller, let’s see where the real investigation leads. He seems scared of questions, but he can be subpoenaed
-Volume 1 conclusion: They had insufficient evidence of conspiracy. So perhaps there was none, but he worded it as they had insufficient evidence.

-Volume 2 conclusion: He did not conclude whether Trump obstructed justice. He didn't charge because DOJ policy says you cannot indict the President.

I think he was clarifying this for those that keep saying "No collusion, no obstruction" because each of the bullet points above are different than "no collusion, no obstruction."

So there's no indictments, which is acceptable because how the Justice Department works. What is not acceptable is people burying their heads in the sand about what is acceptable behavior or having a reasonable debate about what is acceptable behavior.

Also, do you believe the country should fix areas in terms of election interference by Russia? His last statement was that every American should be concerned about that.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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I suppose he's suggesting the DOJ policy is unconstitutional.
No, I think the DOJ approved his speech there - which is why he was reading it.

I think they stretched the truth from "longstanding policy" to "unconstitutional" in order to try and make a point.

I do understand the basics behind charging someone if you aren't going to try them...but maybe the DOJ should then suggest Impeachment (which he sorta did, by inference). That's a fair trial....and should not be partisan. After all, if the evidence is presented and the witnesses testify, we get closer to the truth and Trump has a real defense.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:20 AM
 
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"If we had confidence that the President did not commit a crime we would have said so."

Special Counsel Mueller

So in summary, let's just cut the BS and decipher:

The department of justice cannot charge a sitting President therefore Congress needs to get on and charge this President for his crimes.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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Wow.
He made it clear the President was NOT cleared and that he did have the power to say so if that was the case.

He did NOT have the option of charging the President with a crime.

This is NOT good nor does it clear the President.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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take home message:

" Mueller says he would not go beyond anything in his report on the Russia probe if he appears before Congress"
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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I think this is a prelude to the IG report coming out that is going to totally crush dems & the deep state.
I think you misheard Mueller's statement.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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Evidence to prove a negative? I didn't kill that guy who was running in the park last Tuesday, but I can't prove it.
No, this is.......

A guy was running in the park last week - caught on camera and by witnesses and other means.

BUT, I am the FBI and DOJ and only the city police are allowed to charge the Jogger
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