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Old 06-06-2019, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/surve...080010177.html According to that link:

"The platform, navigated remotely using a unique altitude control system, can provide imagery that’s superior to orbiting vehicles, Hartman contends, because “we’re five times closer to the earth than the nearest satellite.” He said “our imagination is sort of our limit with regards to where and how these systems can be used. Certainly there is a market in target surveillance and reconnaissance on a global scale.”

So the question is: How much surveillance is too much? Is there such a thing as 'private property' if everybody can peak over your fence? Keep in mind that our current surveillance satellites can read license plates and this is five times closer.
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Old 06-06-2019, 12:39 PM
 
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Welcome to the era of Cyberpunk.
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Old 06-06-2019, 12:41 PM
 
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If they intrude into private property I will support whoever comes up with something to bring them down. A drone can likely do the trick by then.
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Old 06-06-2019, 12:48 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/surve...080010177.html According to that link:

"The platform, navigated remotely using a unique altitude control system, can provide imagery that’s superior to orbiting vehicles, Hartman contends, because “we’re five times closer to the earth than the nearest satellite.” He said “our imagination is sort of our limit with regards to where and how these systems can be used. Certainly there is a market in target surveillance and reconnaissance on a global scale.”

So the question is: How much surveillance is too much? Is there such a thing as 'private property' if everybody can peak over your fence? Keep in mind that our current surveillance satellites can read license plates and this is five times closer.
Welcome to the Government Police State. That has replaced the Free State, that is our duty to defend.
Our very Bill of Rights declares the people are to prevent this. Will the POWERFUL government allow it?
How does it feel to be someone elses Property?
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Old 06-06-2019, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Zoom down on your house address with Google maps. That shows at an altitude of about 500ft~. You can make out ANYTHING in your yard, provided it isn't covered by a tree(s).

IF you are one of the "lucky ones" where they did this in your area, you can even zoom right down to street level, and move around looking inside of houses through the windows, if the light is right at times!

This is all right NOW.
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Old 06-06-2019, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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If they intrude into private property I will support whoever comes up with something to bring them down. A drone can likely do the trick by then.
Drones do not fly up to the altitudes they are talking about (50,000 to 75,000 feet).

We already have the ALPR technology spreading out and going into areas that were once thought private: https://www.eff.org/pages/automated-...e-readers-alpr. I see our local police sitting in the middle of the road and using this technology on every vehicle that passes.

I just wish that we could put the brakes on the spread and use. Surveillance is changing our world in more ways than we can possibly imaging. Most of it is promoted under the guise of 'safety'; but who keeps the normal citizens safe from all this new technology?
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Old 06-06-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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Drones do not fly up to the altitudes they are talking about (50,000 to 75,000 feet).
Today.
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Old 06-06-2019, 01:23 PM
 
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Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away


STEPHEN STILLS 1966
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Old 06-06-2019, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away


STEPHEN STILLS 1966
Are you saying that we should not be concerned? Where are the courts and the political opposition to the push to surveille?

I just think it is a fine line. It is great to get the known felons off the streets. But will this be used to remove all illegal aliens; I doubt it. It is like my local police using the ALPR plate readers that cost somewhere around $14,000. They have to justify the cost and who is going to pay? It is the same with all this new technology; it isn't cheap.
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:01 PM
 
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If they intrude into private property I will support whoever comes up with something to bring them down. A drone can likely do the trick by then.
Amazon drones are going to map out rural property. Your property will be surveyed if your neighbor orders through Amazon.
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