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Old 06-09-2019, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Three years and nothing. You're either very patient or just believe what you want to believe Meanwhile: Mueller 34 people and three companies charged. Seven people in jail or awaiting sentencing. The judge in Flynn's case asked if he could be charged with treason. Roger Stone arrested and awaiting trial. Want to talk about the pending spin off investigation into the criminal Trump enterprise? How about the pending FBI counter intelligence collected while they were entrenched in the Mueller investigation?

You want to talk about the Clinton convictions over the last three years? Oh wait, there aren't any.

If you're so obsessed with corruption surrounding Clinton, why aren't you equally as alarmed by Trump's inner circle either indicted, in jail, or awaiting sentencing? Not the least bit concerned that the Trump foundation was closed and sued for fraud? Trump University closed and paid 25 million in restitution? Trump super pac under investigation for fraud? Trump taxes being looked into for fraud? Trump inauguration being looked into for illegal activity? Why aren't you talking about that?

Mueller is a patriot and part of the greatest generation. He proudly served our country. Where was captain bone spurs? Fighting his own Viet Nam of venereal disease?

Each generation has it's heroes. To call one generation better over another is narrow minded. Trump will never be part of the greatest generation, unless you appreciate corrupt, morally bankrupt malignant narcissistic behavior.
I got to admit, he did a fine job during his investigation finally sorting out the accusations made against President Trump and his family.

No obstruction, no collusion.
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:17 AM
 
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Originally Posted by animalcrazy View Post
Three years and nothing. You're either very patient or just believe what you want to believe Meanwhile: Mueller 34 people and three companies charged. Seven people in jail or awaiting sentencing. The judge in Flynn's case asked if he could be charged with treason. Roger Stone arrested and awaiting trial. Want to talk about the pending spin off investigation into the criminal Trump enterprise? How about the pending FBI counter intelligence collected while they were entrenched in the Mueller investigation?

You want to talk about the Clinton convictions over the last three years? Oh wait, there aren't any.

If you're so obsessed with corruption surrounding Clinton, why aren't you equally as alarmed by Trump's inner circle either indicted, in jail, or awaiting sentencing? Not the least bit concerned that the Trump foundation was closed and sued for fraud? Trump University closed and paid 25 million in restitution? Trump super pac under investigation for fraud? Trump taxes being looked into for fraud? Trump inauguration being looked into for illegal activity? Why aren't you talking about that?

Mueller is a patriot and part of the greatest generation. He proudly served our country. Where was captain bone spurs? Fighting his own Viet Nam of venereal disease?

Each generation has it's heroes. To call one generation better over another is narrow minded. Trump will never be part of the greatest generation, unless you appreciate corrupt, morally bankrupt malignant narcissistic behavior.
"Three years and nothing." BECAUSE the DEM CONTROLLED the White House and the congress have stonewalled, destroyed documents etc.



NOW they are REALLY being investigated.
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:02 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Because I’m telling the truth doesn’t mean I sound like a Republican.
The party of Slavery & Jim Crow.
He was a Republican, fighting against that.
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:40 AM
 
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I disagree. We have PLENTY of Americans like that.

The Greatest Generation had the luxury of being called to serve a noble cause. We’ve had no noble causes since then. Everything since WW2 that we’ve called on young people to undertake have been disasters of our own making.

We sent young Americans to go save the world in 1941. Nowadays, we ask them to save American monied interests worldwide, and then have the nerve to be upset at their cynicism.

If the cause is just, another “Great Generation” will heed the call just like their great great grandparents did, and they’ll do fine. And if the Americans left back home are asked to sacrifice our comforts to pitch in, they’ll do it. But you’ve gotta ask.
Not allowed to rep again but … kudos for that one.
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:45 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Not allowed to rep again but … kudos for that one.
It is called "Tunnel Vision" That Generation was more than just a bloody war.
Unlike the selfish "Me" generations to come afterward.
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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I got to admit, he did a fine job during his investigation finally sorting out the accusations made against President Trump and his family.

No obstruction, no collusion.
Have you read the Mueller report or are you just parroting spin?

Here's some clues:
Page 2. In regard to "collusion." "Collusion, coordination does not have a settled defifinition in federal criminal law."

Page 5 : "The presidential campaign of Donald J Trump showed interest in WikiLeaks release of documents and welcomed their potential damage to candidate Clinton."
"The social media campaign and the GRU hacking operations coincided with a series of contacts between Trump campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government. The office investigated whether those contacts reflected or resulted in the Campaign conspiring or coordinating with Russia in its election-interference activities. Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities. "
Page 6 talks about Manafort (the one who shared internal poll numbers with the Russian's and perfect information for targeting poor polling districts.) Manafort admitted to Mueller that a meeting with Kilimnik was " a backdoor way for Russia to control part of Eastern Ukraine, both men believed the plan would require candidate Trump's assent to succeed.(Were he to be elected president.) Yikes how and why?

Now you have to understand why Mueller didn't conclude that there was collusion.
Page 9 " Third, the investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the office, and to Congress, about their interactions with the Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian election interference."

Page 10 "The investigation did not a;lways yield admissible information or testimony, or a complete picture of the activities undertaken by subjects of the investigation. Some individuals invoked their 5th amendment right against compelled self-incrimination and were not, in the Offices's judgement, appropriate candidates for grants of immunity. The office limited its pursuit of other witnesses and and information." (why?) That paragraph goes on to explain that some of the information was screened by a taint team and restricted to the special counsel because it was privileged information. The paragraph further explains that witnesses lived "abroad" and documents could not be accessed. People lied and gave incomplete statements, and some individuals associated with the Trump campaign "deleted relevant communications or communications during the relevant period using applications that features encryption or that do not provide for long term retention of data." That's right out of a sophisticated spy craft playbook. Is that out of reach for a special counsel and more in tune with what the CIA or FBI should be investigating? Hence the FBI and counter intel entrenched in the investigation.

Look, this is just the tip of the iceberg of what's in the Mueller report. This is just in the first 10 pages.

If you want the truth and can put two and two together, you will have a much better understanding of what the traitor in chief was up too, and I haven't even written about the obstruction. Put the country first. Read the report!!!!
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Old 06-09-2019, 02:28 PM
 
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"about a war hero."

MANY of us, including some of those that were with him at the POW camp, do NOT believe WAS a hero.

P.S. I did 2 TOURS in NAM. And you?

If he was such "hero" to the dems,, why DIDN'T all those dems vote for him when he ran for president?
For the same reason why you guys didn’t vote for John Kerry.
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The party of Slavery & Jim Crow.
He was a Republican, fighting against that.
My grandfather wasn’t a Republican. He was however a fighter.
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Old 06-09-2019, 04:57 PM
 
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It is called "Tunnel Vision" That Generation was more than just a bloody war.
Unlike the selfish "Me" generations to come afterward.
Give it a rest would ya, or do you need reminding of the 1940 Selective Training and Service act that was a peacetime embellishment of the original Selective Service Act of 1917 that was required to fill the ranks of Americans for BOTH world wars?

Get yourself a new horse to beat... this one's been beat to death already by history itself.
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Old 06-09-2019, 05:09 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Mueller and McStain have ruined their own reputations because of their corruption. More will be coming out soon about their connection to the Clinton Foundation Uranium One scandal now that US Atty Huber has wrapped up his investigation.
Bunch of lies. Both far more honorable men than those who slander them on this forum. Mueller is a fine public servant who has cared about this reputation to the utmost. He did the job he was given, which was to conduct the investigation; and he rendered the verdict he could based on the data, which was no recommendation of charges. What is "corrupt" about that?

Also, he led a platoon in combat during Vietnam, and he VOLUNTEERED to go - wasn't drafted. He is a decorated veteran who was observed to act bravely during firefights. Contrast that with the current President...or perhaps look in the mirror.
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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Kudos to the old guy. But in my book all those who put on that uniform are heroes.
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