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Old 06-07-2019, 07:29 AM
 
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I respect, and support the U.S. military. However, I believe a lot of their leadership is in bed with Defense Contractors and like to say the Sky is Falling at times. This has happened throughout modern history. The USSR was the old boogeyman and now we don't have them as much to use as a reason for defense spending. Who fills the void? Terrorists, and terror sponsoring countries like Iran.

Statements like these need to be thoroughly vetted by the intelligence community, and knowledgeable advisors within the Administration before we go off "half cocked".


The part that confuses me is Iran is bad because they sponsor terrorist. But 9-11 was sponsored by Saudis and we sell them lots of weapons.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:23 AM
 
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Bin Laden fought for us.
055 Brigade fought against the US backed anti-Taliban forces in the Afghan civil war.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:25 AM
 
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The part that confuses me is Iran is bad because they sponsor terrorist. But 9-11 was sponsored by Saudis and we sell them lots of weapons.
Dont expect it to make any real sense. The tribalist attitude has them repeat everything they hear from the tribe leaders.
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Old 06-07-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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055 Brigade fought against the US backed anti-Taliban forces in the Afghan civil war.
During the anti-Soviet jihad Bin Laden and his fighters received American and Saudi funding.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Al-Qaeda's origins and links
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:41 AM
 
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We need to use the Reagan approach and use regional proxies. Let the Saudis take care of them. They can buy an army to defeat the Iranians and they hate each other- one is Shiite and the other Suni It is a win-win.
We did that already when we used Iraq as a proxy. They failed miserably. The Iranians arenít dumb. They smelled a rat and defended their nation accordingly at GREAT cost, and they didnít falter. They held firm.

No regional power can take down Iran. Theyíre too formidable, too big, too populous, too mountainous, too proud and too dedicated in the patriotic Persian ideal. They know who they are as a people. They arenít gonna be taken down a peg by Arabs.

If you want something done, you should put in your own work. I live by that rule. If the United States canít take down Iran (and we canít), we should leave it alone.
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Old 06-07-2019, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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The part that confuses me is Iran is bad because they sponsor terrorist. But 9-11 was sponsored by Saudis and we sell them lots of weapons.
It was not sponsored by SA. SA allows for no political conversation within it's country. The group of Saudi's were a bunch of bored rich kids who had worthless degrees (none of them actually worked in the field that they had degrees in). There is/was no social life in SA. They wanted their 15 minutes of fame and their 72 virgins each.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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Or a bit more clearly...





Iran Is also 50% larger then Iraq and Iran combined.. with a population equal to Afghan and Iraq.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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Meanwhile Saudi citizens have killed people in this country and the Saudi government sends money to bail them out and fly them home before we can prosecute them.

We have no extradition treaty with the Saudis to get those criminals back. Nice ally.

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019...-wont-say.html

The FBI has rebuffed a formal request from Oregonís senior U.S. senator and wonít turn over information it might have about a growing number of cases where students from Saudi Arabia vanished while facing criminal charges around the country.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:20 PM
 
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A war with Iran would make the war with Iraq look like a cake walk. Just look at the size and terrain of it alone.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:22 PM
 
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If Trump feels he’s about to lose the election I bet he’ll launch a war to try and rally support around him.
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