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Old 06-06-2019, 10:13 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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ONe of the sponsors of the fetal heartbeat bill in Louisiana is black Democrat Katrina Jackson from a majority black district. She called abortion genocide and said that it diminishes the black population and hence reduces black political power. In this article she's quoted as mentioning "our race's power".

I guess if Roe vs Wade is repealed, there WILL be more blacks and Hispanics in the US and if current trends continue banning abortion will actually increase Democrat power since so many blacks and Hispanics are conditioned to vote Democrat.

So I'm glad she's pro-life but for the wrong reasons. But then racial based politics is a staple for Democrats though.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:16 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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The interesting thing is that if these black Democrats are THAT serious about being pro-life then they really should support Trump for 2010 as the survival of these laws is dependent on Trump being able to appoint more conservative judges to the Supreme Court. Imagine what kind of judge AOC, Pocahontas, or Biden would appoint.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:21 PM
 
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The interesting thing is that if these black Democrats are THAT serious about being pro-life then they really should support Trump for 2010 as the survival of these laws is dependent on Trump being able to appoint more conservative judges to the Supreme Court. Imagine what kind of judge AOC, Pocahontas, or Biden would appoint.
Trump isn’t pro life. His constituents are. He never cared about abortion. Still doesn’t. And even if he was, that’s not enough of a reason to vote for him. If you’re a one issue voter, that’s your business. We don’t have that luxury.

BTW...her reason is racial, not racist. There’s a difference.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:52 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Trump isn’t pro life. His constituents are. He never cared about abortion. Still doesn’t. And even if he was, that’s not enough of a reason to vote for him. If you’re a one issue voter, that’s your business. We don’t have that luxury.

BTW...her reason is racial, not racist. There’s a difference.
So I see that you as a black radical also agree with her views in THIS regard. Rather than think of yourself simply as an American people like you and her still focus on being black. She doesn't seem like the kind of person who would be okay with her kids getting married to white people, now THAT would dilute the black electorate. Whenever a black person becomes gay and doesn't reproduce that probably also decreases the black electorate.

So it seems like some blacks, like Palestinians, are into demographic warfare.
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Old 06-07-2019, 12:04 AM
 
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Trump isnít pro life. His constituents are. He never cared about abortion. Still doesnít. And even if he was, thatís not enough of a reason to vote for him. If youíre a one issue voter, thatís your business. We donít have that luxury.

BTW...her reason is racial, not racist. Thereís a difference.
Wouldn't be if she were white. We all know this.
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Old 06-07-2019, 12:48 AM
 
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So I see that you as a black radical also agree with her views in THIS regard. Rather than think of yourself simply as an American people like you and her still focus on being black. She doesn't seem like the kind of person who would be okay with her kids getting married to white people, now THAT would dilute the black electorate. Whenever a black person becomes gay and doesn't reproduce that probably also decreases the black electorate.

So it seems like some blacks, like Palestinians, are into demographic warfare.
ďBlack radical?Ē Where in the hell did you pull that out of? Iím about as run of the mill in black folks as youíll find. I have no idea what youíre talking about. You donít either.

Moreover, who told you that I donít think of myself ďsimply as an American?Ē What do you mean? As opposed to what exactly? What else can I be besides an American? ďFocus on being black?Ē What? Thatís akin to saying that I focus on breathing or focus on eating and drinking. Iím black. Thatís not some peripheral or unimportant matter nor has it ever been in the history of this country. This country has spent most of its history reminding African Americans that theyíre black. So now weíre bad because weíve internalized this assertion after spending centuries being browbeaten with it? Why does blackness have to come on the terms set forth by non blacks, and not by blacks themselves?

As for the politician, youíre offering conjecture. You donít know how she feels about who her kids marry. Thatís irrelevant anyway. Whatís it to you if blacks intermarry anyway? Youíre not even white. The main point Iím making is that her reasoning is racial, but itís not racist. Again, there IS a difference.

If you want to see nefarious intentions in her views, thatís your business and Iím not here to dissuade you from thinking that. Maybe she is a racist. But what sheís saying as it appertains to this issue is fairly standard reasoning for being anti abortion.


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Wouldn't be if she were white. We all know this.
That depends. Blacks and whites arenít in the same position numerically, socially or financially.

However, letís not pretend to be oblivious here. Many whites are against abortion for demographic reasons whether they say so or not, and they donít have to say so for me to know it. Whites are looking for black allies in the abortion debate, but letís be real; it ainít because they wanna see more black babies being born. Of course you can pretend to disagree with me, but you know damn well that Iím touching a nerve.

Iím not cynical enough to believe that ALL anti abortion whites hold to that position because of demography, but I KNOW the absence of overt demographic reasoning in their rhetoric doesnít mean that they arenít considering it. They know that being too outspoken about holding onto their majority population status is a turn-off to potential allies in the abortion fight.

If many if not most white anti abortion activists could simply stop all white women from having abortions, theyíd happily take that and run with it. Itíd more than suffice as a compromise.

So if weíre gonna discuss this, letís at least show some intellectual honesty, okay?
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Old 06-07-2019, 12:56 AM
 
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So I see that you as a black radical also agree with her views in THIS regard. Rather than think of yourself simply as an American people like you and her still focus on being black. She doesn't seem like the kind of person who would be okay with her kids getting married to white people, now THAT would dilute the black electorate. Whenever a black person becomes gay and doesn't reproduce that probably also decreases the black electorate.

So it seems like some blacks, like Palestinians, are into demographic warfare.
No better example then the son of late Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall. Look up old Jr and his business dealings
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:26 AM
 
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That depends. Blacks and whites arenít in the same position numerically, socially or financially.

However, letís not pretend to be oblivious here. Many whites are against abortion for demographic reasons whether they say so or not, and they donít have to say so for me to know it. Whites are looking for black allies in the abortion debate, but letís be real; it ainít because they wanna see more black babies being born. Of course you can pretend to disagree with me, but you know damn well that Iím touching a nerve.

Iím not cynical enough to believe that ALL anti abortion whites hold to that position because of demography, but I KNOW the absence of overt demographic reasoning in their rhetoric doesnít mean that they arenít considering it. They know that being too outspoken about holding onto their majority population status is a turn-off to potential allies in the abortion fight.

If many if not most white anti abortion activists could simply stop all white women from having abortions, theyíd happily take that and run with it. Itíd more than suffice as a compromise.

So if weíre gonna discuss this, letís at least show some intellectual honesty, okay?
Sorry dude, most of the anti-abortion crowd are those who believe it's an abomination to God. It's the white supremacist set where you find the idea of more blacks getting abortion is ideal, your delusions notwithstanding.

Perhaps it's you who needs the intellectual honesty (and much less paranoia).
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Old 06-07-2019, 02:16 AM
 
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Sorry dude, most of the anti-abortion crowd are those who believe it's an abomination to God. It's the white supremacist set where you find the idea of more blacks getting abortion is ideal, your delusions notwithstanding.

Perhaps it's you who needs the intellectual honesty (and much less paranoia).
There are a couple of people on this forum who make the argument that they are glad abortions happen to keep down the black population, and on the other end, conservatives who claim black people shouldnt get abortions as to help grow the population.

If you need national figures who the right wing lets spew those arguments, look no further than Katrina Parsons(sp?) and Candace Owens.
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Old 06-07-2019, 02:25 AM
 
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Sorry dude, most of the anti-abortion crowd are those who believe it's an abomination to God. It's the white supremacist set where you find the idea of more blacks getting abortion is ideal, your delusions notwithstanding.

Perhaps it's you who needs the intellectual honesty (and much less paranoia).
Abomination to God?

Staaaaaaaaaahp it.

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There are a couple of people on this forum who make the argument that they are glad abortions happen to keep down the black population, and on the other end, conservatives who claim black people shouldnt get abortions as to help grow the population.

If you need national figures who the right wing lets spew those arguments, look no further than Katrina Parsons(sp?) and Candace Owens.
Heís actually one of those posters. Lol
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