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Old 06-07-2019, 04:21 PM
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Why are Democrats even concerned about what the President will be doing on the Fourth of July? He'll be in the right place doing the right thing. Some Dems don't even celebrate the 4th anymore (sad, but true), and they think they have to decide our holidays for us??

To each their own; however, real patriots are looking positively ahead. I'm looking forward to the 4th. It'll be a great day.

 
Old 06-07-2019, 06:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Past presidents have used the 4th to swear in naturalized citizens it was never about them, can you imagine Trump swearing in immigrants. I don't expect this to be a unifying experience with Trump, should go as well as Nixon's celebration in 1970 that ended in a brawl with people tipping over light trucks into the pool.
Partial credit for that one - the Great Obama did a swearing in ceremony on July 4, 2016 and watched one in 2012. Others may have done that also, but I didn't find it. If Trump did so ... he would have to tweet about it as the Leftist Media would never report it.

Past Presidents have given many Speeches on July 4th -
How American presidents have spent the Fourth of July |Business Insider - July 2015

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Starting to wonder if the 4th of July is just going to be the next holiday that progressives disregard, disrespect, and grind into the ground. It stands for too many things they dislike.
You are exactly correct - Protests will be planned, just as they were in 2017. Doubtful the Leftist Media will display the HATE that they feel toward our very Nation. Turns out that President Trump did EXACTLY the same thing on July 4th 2017 that Obama did every year - Party for the Military at the White House, except that Trump did not do a Concert with Beyonce or some Rap Group.

Trump’s First July Fourth as President Will Be Low-Key, and Mostly Spent Playing Golf
Every fourth of July, the Obamas celebrated with a concert. This year, after President Trump returns from a reported golf trip, July Fourth will be a little more mellow at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. |Vanity Fair - July 2017


And while the White House reverts to a more low-key Independence Day celebration, elsewhere in the nation, some people aren’t in the celebrating mood. The founder of New Orleans’s annual July 4th Flotilla, a boat parade in honor of the holiday, canceled this year’s event because she was felt it was wrong to celebrate while Trump is in office. "When I think about wearing my flag dress and waving flags; I don't know what it means this year," she said, per The Times- Picayune. On a larger scale, there will be a world-wide Impeachment Day march on July 2, with a flagship march in Trump's hometown of New York City. In Boston on July 2, protesters will walk in solidarity in the March for Real News, and on Friday, July 7, New York residents will round out the holiday week with a Fire Trump walk outside of Trump Tower.

Nothing but SNARK ..... side offering of HATE.

Protests against the July 4th Celebration are being planned again this year - they simply can't help themselves. Leftists are so Out of Touch with Normal Americans.

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Every other president has kept away from the 4th of July celebrations in DC. Because - THEY didn't need to make themselves the center of it.
Fourth of July should be bipartisan and having a political rally will just ruin it.
You can count on Dump to make it partisan.
Obama had a big party, concert, entertainers, stage, speech .. all that stuff. He did it at the White House - I can't imagine Obama wanting to mix with the unwashed that participate in the National 4th of July Celebration. He invited Military Families and kept them behind a rope line - pressed some flesh and watched the Fireworks in private with Michelle.

The Media made a big point of telling us in 2017 that Trump was just no good at "4th of July", while the Great Obama was perfect. (see link for Vanity Fair).

Trump's predecessor, Barack Obama, had a habit of throwing big July Fourth concerts to honor military service members and give staffers a chance to celebrate. In 2016, the event featured rapper Kendrick Lamar; in 2012 the White House welcomed country singer Brad Paisley. For years, Obama's Independence Day was a party—he held babies and served barbecue and regularly led attendees in singing “Happy Birthday” to his daughter Malia, who, coincidentally, was born on July 4
WHAT DO PRESIDENTS DO FOR JULY FOURTH? TRUMP IS IN NEW JERSEY, OBAMA HELD CONCERTS AND THOMAS JEFFERSON DIED |Newsweek July 2017

Only President Trump WAS in Washington on July 4th 2017 - He did have an event for Veterans and Military with a BBQ dinner - he was in New Jersey the weekend BEFORE July 4th, which the article states, but the headline does not. First sentence in this Newsweek article is : Tuesday is America's 241st birthday, but the president isn't spending this weekend at the White House celebrating—he's in New Jersey.

Donald Trump celebrates the American Flag, he is pretty vocal about those that shake their Fist at it, burn it and kneel against it. That's a big difference that our recent past - the Leftists HATE it and the Media feeds their HATE. The Leftist Media truly believes that they can convince the public to accept their slanted viewpoint of President Trump, those who voted for him (63 MILLION) and the entire world with their extremely Biased Reporting. They messed up big time during the D-Day Ceremonies - the British and European Press were highly praising the President while the US Press was saying "I want to see Trump in Prison".


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We all know that mush-brained leftists make baseless claims with absolutely no evidence whatsoever.

He killed it delivering the D-Day speech. He'll repeat that resonance on Independence day.
They are Projecting what they want to happen - all we really know at this point is that the National Park Service has decided to launch the Fireworks from the bank of the Potomac River instead of from the bank of the Lincoln Memorial Reflection Pool .... that will do 2 things. It will open a lot of space for more people, it will give those in Virginia right across the river a good view. It sounds a lot like the President wants to make an appearance at some point during the Festivities and make some remarks - the NPS says that President Trump will not disrupt the Program.

House Democrats attack Trump’s plans to speak at Fourth of July celebration |Washington Post

The Washington Post is the Media that is promoting this "outrage" ... I won't be a bit surprised if it turns out that President Trump makes lovely remarks like he did in Portsmouth and Normandy and has sucked the Leftists into Protests against the USA on the 4th of July -- expose their Total Hysterical Meltdown for the Nation to view.

I look forward to it - I always look forward to those who expose what they really feel about this Nation, our System of Government, our Constitution, those who sacrificed for us to live free.
Sunlight eventually begins to seep into the conscience of Normal Americans and what this Nation means.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 06:51 PM
 
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:57 PM
 
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Why do democrats care where Trump decides to give a July 4th public address ? Do they think they own the public square ?

The President that kept the union together is a great place to celebrate the birth and union of the nation !!!

Don't you agree freedom lovers ?

Dems fume over Trump plans to address public from Lincoln Memorial on July 4
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...rial-on-july-4

“HOLD THE DATE!” Trump tweeted. “We will be having one of the biggest gatherings in the history of Washington, D.C., on July 4th. It will be called “A Salute To America” and will be held at the Lincoln Memorial. Major fireworks display, entertainment and an address by your favorite President, me!”
No president needs to make a speech. Trump is all about Trump and his ego. There has always been entertainment and fireworks in DC. He can’t make it any better.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 09:56 PM
 
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No president needs to make a speech. Trump is all about Trump and his ego. There has always been entertainment and fireworks in DC. He can’t make it any better.
Oh but he can !!!

democrat tears will put out the stray fires from the fireworks !!!

That will save the city a lot of money !!!
 
Old 06-07-2019, 10:05 PM
 
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I'm a Dem and I sure as heck don't care where he speaks. I'm sure I'll be too busy enjoying family and friends to notice, so have at it.
 
Old 06-08-2019, 10:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by phma View Post
Why do democrats care where Trump decides to give a July 4th public address ? Do they think they own the public square ?

The President that kept the union together is a great place to celebrate the birth and union of the nation !!!

Don't you agree freedom lovers ?

Dems fume over Trump plans to address public from Lincoln Memorial on July 4
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...rial-on-july-4

“HOLD THE DATE!” Trump tweeted. “We will be having one of the biggest gatherings in the history of Washington, D.C., on July 4th. It will be called “A Salute To America” and will be held at the Lincoln Memorial. Major fireworks display, entertainment and an address by your favorite President, me!”
Well, this is certainly the same topic as in another thread with just a bit of a different approach and "tack" toward divisiveness. The real question that begs asking: Why and for what purpose does Trump (and his spokespeople and his agitators) desire to transform this long standing and highly successful Independence Day tradition( for all Americans ) into a partisan and political show of disunion?

My opinion remains the same for this thread as in the other because, freedom lovers, to borrow your phrase, phma, agree, this D.C. celebration should remain apolitical and one of unity, as it has been for more than 50 years.

Why, you may ask?

The National Mall has become a popular destination for tourists and Washingtonians alike to celebrate “A Capitol Fourth” the annual free concert and fireworks display at the West Lawn of the Capitol. Immediately preceding the fireworks it is tradition for the band to play Tchaikovsky’s 1812 Overture complete with cannon fire. This very large celebration has been going on for more than 50 years. Presidents have not inserted themselves.

Fireworks on the Mall, which the National Park Service has orchestrated for more than half a century, draws hundreds of thousands of Americans annually and marks one of the highlights of the city’s tourist season. The event has been broadcast live on television since 1947 and since 1981 has been accompanied by a free concert on the West Lawn of the U.S. Capitol featuring high-profile musicians and a performance by the National Symphony Orchestra. A "Capitol Fourth" as it has been called, forever, is a daylong 8 a.m. to 10 p.m wonderful event. I have been to more than 10... we always located the same spot under the same tree, most years, and picnicked and toured and celebrated the day. It has been a carefree, united, non-partisan and non-political event.

This year President Trump has effectively taken charge of our nation's premier Fourth of July celebration. He has demanded moving the gargantuan fireworks display from its usual spot on the Mall to be closer to the Potomac River and he's making plans to address the nation from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. He seems to think it is his party, never done before, and even sending out a silly tweet about saving the date. Ugh. It is not his! It existed before him and it will exist after him. It is not about him.

It is a celebration of our nation and not to be politicized. He has cast himself into a starring role where none is needed or wanted. Independence is the star. I have been to numerous Capitol Fourths and it definitely is a time for the people. No leader is required and presidents do not insert themselves.

The president’s take over and now starring role has the potential to turn what has long been a nonpartisan celebration of the nation’s founding into another version of a Trump campaign rally. Officials said it is unclear how much the changes may cost, but the plans have already raised alarms among city officials and some lawmakers about the potential impact of such major alterations to a time-honored and well-organized summer tradition. It truly is so well organized...I am always amazed at how it runs like an oiled machine.

In addition to adding an address by himself, he's changed the name to a "Salute to America,” and as mentioned shifted the fireworks a mile southwest of its usual location which was near the Washington Monument. The fireworks are stunning over the Washington Monument...truly breathtaking ...now?

This revised Independence Day celebration is two years of attempts by Trump to create a major patriotic event centered on him and his supporters, including failed efforts to mount a military parade modeled on the Bastille Day celebration in France.

The problem with Trump inserting himself with his changed plans to long held traditions and his thoughts that this is some new idea to celebrate America on the 4th? He is going to and already has polarized what has typically been a unifying event for Americans.

It’s not about any one president. It’s about how our nation came to be, because of a hardy band of brave men and women. It’s not about any one person, it’s about ‘We, the people.’

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Old 06-08-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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The Democrats are so authoritarian and self-righteous that they seek to control everything; just like the Nazis to whom they try to link anyone who opposes them, and the Marxists, from whose playbook they borrow.
This celebration in D.C. has been a non-partisan and apolitical event for more than 50 years. The only entity attempting to control and transform the Independence Day tradition is the authoritarian in the White House. The real question that Americans should be asking: Why are the Trumpers and Trump desiring to change a successful and annually attended celebration of unity into one of political partisanship? Why do they want to make it about one man when Independence Day is about ALL Americans?

If continued divisiveness and intentional hate mongering and goose stepping adherence is the goal then those attempting to co-opt a celebration of the exact opposite are the ones to be questioned, not the very Americans attempting to salvage a long standing symbol and day of unity. Those Americans are not necessarily Democrats, either, as every issue does not belong under an R or a D, despite the OP's attempt to convince you otherwise.

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Old 06-08-2019, 12:14 PM
 
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He can give his usual partisan rally talk from the Lincoln Memorial; still never going to make him worthy of even half the man Lincoln was.

The only thing I care about is he not pervert the military into kissing his ass in a giant Kim Jong Un-style military parade at taxpayers' expense.
 
Old 06-08-2019, 12:18 PM
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YES, the people do in fact own the "Public square" called the Mall. It has never before been used for partisan politics and after we get rid of this jackass, it never will be again.
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