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Old 06-07-2019, 04:13 PM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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It's no "so-called" and there's nothing "so-called" about it. Funny how Democrats like to believe that their party is perfect and that their people can do no wrong at all. And nothing can be further from the truth. The fact is, Hillary and Obama both committed crimes, as did a lot of other members of the latter's pathetic administration. They both need to be brought to justice and rightfully punished. That is what needs to happen.
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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It's no "so-called" and there's nothing "so-called" about it. Funny how Democrats like to believe that their party is perfect and that their people can do no wrong at all. And nothing can be further from the truth. The fact is, Hillary and Obama both committed crimes, as did a lot of other members of the latter's pathetic administration. They both need to be brought to justice and rightfully punished. That is what needs to happen.
If there was anything behind those claims other than right wing conspiracy nonsense, Trump would have Barr all over prosecuting them. Trump knows its just a chant to get his gullible base worked up and will continue playing you like a fiddle while knowing he's full of BS.
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:22 PM
 
Location: New Market, MD
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^^^^so when can we get that process started? Are we waiting for a democrat president? Is Trump no good for this though he still chants lock her up. Even Liar-in-chief behaves like obama is still in the office!
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:27 PM
 
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Trump has literally tweeted out classified material.

Trump as President is the ultimate arbiter of what is and is not classified.

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Kushner used a private email server for official business.

Firstly there is significant difference between private email account and private email server. This practice needs to end however there is currently no law preventing him from doing that. What the law stipulates is he must provide copies of those emails for archiving and he may not use it for classified email.



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You want Hillary in jail because you hate Hillary, no other reason.

I want Hillary in jail because if any of us did what she did we'd be in jail.
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:30 PM
 
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WhatsApp to chat with dictators and world leaders,

This uses end to end encryption and would be a very secure way to communicate.
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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That is the right wing side of the debate. The Clinton defense is there quite adequately refuting the right side.

Clinton was SofS. Impossible to charge her with mishandling classified material that originated in the State Dept. She is the classifying authority there.
Novel idea, unfortunately it is a matter of timing and content. The declassification must occur before can be distributed through unclassified means that may result in exposure and at least some of the info was not State department so she is not the classifying authority for that information.
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:47 PM
 
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This uses end to end encryption and would be a very secure way to communicate.
Its controlled by a private non government server so no, it isnt.
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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If there was anything behind those claims other than right wing conspiracy nonsense, Trump would have Barr all over prosecuting them. Trump knows its just a chant to get his gullible base worked up and will continue playing you like a fiddle while knowing he's full of BS.
Just FYI - Sessions and Barr already have;

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In an interview with CBS’s Jan Crawford, Barr described what tasks U.S. Attorney John Durham, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, and U.S. Attorney John Huber have been assigned regarding the origins of the Trump-Russia investigation and the conduct of the DOJ and FBI as they carried it out.

Barr said “Huber had originally been asked to take a look at the FISA applications and the electronic surveillance” but that he then “stood back and put that on hold while the Office of Inspector General was conducting its review.”

Barr said Huber “was essentially on standby” in the event that Horowitz “referred a matter to him to be handled criminally.” That apparently has not been necessary, as Barr said “he has not been active on this front in recent months.” Barr said Durham would now be taking over Huber’s role in handling any criminal referrals from Horowitz and Huber’s involvement with Trump-Russia matters was done.

Sessions had also asked Huber in 2017 to look into issues related to the sale of Uranium One and allegations that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had been improperly involved in the process, as well as broader claims of corruption at the Clinton Foundation.
"The other issues [Huber has] been working on relate to Hillary Clinton” are "winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition," Barr said.
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Old 06-07-2019, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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Its controlled by a private non government server so no, it isnt.
While this may be used between world leaders to communicate, it is not used for transferring US classified information.
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Old 06-07-2019, 05:15 PM
 
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No charges were filed, so there was no crime.



Trump obstructed justice on as many as 10 different occasions, Mueller said so. It is now a matter of public record that Trump did commit a crime. The only reason Mueller did not file charges is due to a DOJ policy of not indicting presidents. Per DOJ, pursuing the matter further is left up to Congress.

So when Pelosi says she'd like to see Trump in jail, there's nothing outrageous about that. She's just doing her job.
I love this! You just can't make this stuff up!


Hillary didn't commit any crimes because no chrages were filed!


In the very next comment the same person says Trumps guilty...DESPITE NO CHARGES BEING FILED!


Hey guess what....I didn't speed in my car yesterday...how can I be so sure? No tickets were issued!


Al Capone wasn't a mafioso...never killed or had anyone killed..no charges were filed on that stuff.






FWIW, for the ignorant...just because no charges are filed doesn't mean no crime was committed. Likewise just because charges ARE filed doesn't mean the defendant is GUILTY! Guilt is established upon CONVICTION!


But, what do I know...I'm just an uneducated poor racist deplorable. (I know there are many more adjectives that should apply...I just can't keep up with all of them.)
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