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View Poll Results: How far do you think we are from the end of cannabis prohibition?
5 years 19 35.19%
10-15 years 17 31.48%
15-30 years 7 12.96%
Never 11 20.37%
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:02 PM
 
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While more and more states are legalizing medical and recreational marijuana, there's still a heavy stigma associated with the plant and there is fierce opposition to legalization among Republicans, especially the religious wing of the party. Most conservatives still believe that cannabis is a gateway drug and therefore should be prohibited to protect the moral fabric of society. They believe that by going after cannabis they can keep kids from "graduating" to harder drugs. They believe incorrect things about the plant, its dangers, and its intoxicating effects and those beliefs, true or not, are the basis for our public policy.

While this is still the dominant viewpoint in our country among our politicians, public opinion is evolving rather quickly in this issue. People are becoming more and more open to the idea of cannabis legalization. 62% of Americans favor total legalization of marijuana and over 90% favor medical.

However, the GOP and the religious right control our policy so the end of marijuana prohibition still seems like a pipe dream that will never happen. I think that will change once the mantle of power passes from baby boomers to Millennials.

I say we are probably about 5-10 years away from federal legalization and 20-30 years from legalization in the Bible Belt. It's coming though. I think the next time Democrats control all three branches of the government is when we'll see federal legalization.

Yes, I know Dems supported making it illegal in the first place but TODAY pretty much all opposition to legalization is from the GOP and evangelicals and that's what matters.

What about you? How far do you think we are from the end of cannabis prohibition?
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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Republicans started the war on drugs (Nixon). I suppose when science and reason becomes relevant in the republican party again then they can help end the federal prohibition on it. At the very least they can reschedule it to something other than a schedule one substance. That’s just absurd.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:05 PM
 
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If Oklahoma has medical marijuana dispensaries with all the dank flower you can find in Amsterdam or Colorado, the same Oklahoma that was all red during the 2016 election, every single county... the Oklahoma that's 49% evangelical, 5 more years.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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I think legal marijuana and medical marijuana will end up on the ballot almost everywhere in 2020. If most states have medical marijuana, it will only be a matter of time. Not as long as 5 years--sooner.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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Some libertarians oppose regulation because they do not want the state to get bigger through taxation but I think criminal decriminalization is likely nationwide with perhaps just civil fines & penalties.

We'll see how this shakes out in the next few years.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:14 PM
 
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Come on Alabama, be like Oklahoma.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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If Oklahoma has medical marijuana dispensaries with all the dank flower you can find in Amsterdam or Colorado, the same Oklahoma that was all red during the 2016 election, every single county... the Oklahoma that's 49% evangelical, 5 more years.
Thank Oklahoma's voter-friendly ballot initiative petition process for this. This allowed the people's will to prevail over the will of politicians and the Southern Baptist church. A lot of red states don't have this luxury.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:20 PM
 
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Republicans have to pander too hard to the evangelical subset of their base, so it will probably have to wait till the parties in power swap again.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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All this talk about republicans and evangelicals keeping it illegal is just wasted keystrokes. Money is the primary factor in keeping it illegal.

Public opinion could reach 90% and it wouldn't matter. It will remain illegal until we, the voters, start voting out prohibitionists. Once they get the message that their seat in congress is actually under threat because of their stance of marijuana prohibition, they will quickly POP (Pivot On Pot).

When it comes to ending The War on Drugs, public enemy #1 is money. The power of the vote is the only power in the universe strong enough to overcome the power of money. See post #7 for proof (Oklahoma's voter-friendly ballot initiative petition process).
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:23 PM
 
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Republicans have to pander too hard to the evangelical subset of their base, so it will probably have to wait till the parties in power swap again.
This.

That's why I always tell the subset of Trump supporters who support legalization that it will never happen under Trump's watch. Trump's core base is the Christian Right and they are dead set against legalization or even decriminalization.
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