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Old 06-07-2019, 01:28 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Really, keep going far enough with these tariff wars and see where this ends up. It's frankly only good for Trump opponents when he shoots himself in a foot badly enough, but it will hurt a lot of his supporters in the process.

Take this far enough, and it will squeeze people. And when that happens, I bet you people will vote on their pocketbooks at the end of the day and not on some sense of patriotic duty to support Trump's isolationism against the rest of the planet.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...080000425.html


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President Donald Trumpís trade wars have already wiped out all but $100 of the average American householdís windfall from Trumpís 2017 tax law. And thatís just the beginning.

That last $100 in tax-cut gains also could soon disappear -- and then some -- because of additional tariffs Trump has announced or is considering. If the president makes good on his threats to impose levies on virtually all imports from China and Mexico, those middle-earning households could pay nearly $4,000 more as they shell out more for a vast range of goods -- from avocados to iPhones.

Subtract the tax cut, and the average household will effectively be paying about $3,000 more a year in additional costs.

ďItís giving with one hand and taking with the other,Ē said Kim Clausing, an economics professor at Reed College in Portland, Oregon, whoís written a book promoting free trade.

 
Old 06-07-2019, 01:47 PM
 
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All this "Hair on Fire" - Armageddon talk is ludicrous.

Nobody cares about the potential Tariffs .....

We KNOW that the American Citizens don't care a bit about these proposed Tariffs.
We KNOW that the Unions don't care about bit about these proposed Tariffs.
We KNOW that the Large Business Community doesn't care a bit about these proposed Tariffs.
We KNOW that the Small Business Community doesn't care a bit about these proposed Tariffs.
We KNOW that the CongressCritters in both Parties don't care a bit about these proposed Tariffs.

We also KNOW that ALL of the above don't care a bit about the Invasion on our Southern Border, the Child Trafficking, the Humanitarian Crisis, the disease coming into the USA or the immense cost to Taxpayers. There appears to be ONLY the President and the Border Patrol/ICE that Care.

How do we KNOW all of this???

Simple ...... all of the above are sitting on their hands and whining instead of burning up the phones and forcing the Lazy CongressCritters to pass reforms to STOP all of this.

Enough already!
 
Old 06-07-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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I don't think the tariffs have cost me one penny.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ambient View Post
Really, keep going far enough with these tariff wars and see where this ends up. It's frankly only good for Trump opponents when he shoots himself in a foot badly enough, but it will hurt a lot of his supporters in the process.

Take this far enough, and it will squeeze people. And when that happens, I bet you people will vote on their pocketbooks at the end of the day and not on some sense of patriotic duty to support Trump's isolationism against the rest of the planet.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...080000425.html
So if youíre convinced this will backfire and result in a Dem president in 2020 what are you crying about?

You should be out celebrating in the streets
 
Old 06-07-2019, 02:06 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Originally Posted by Kibby View Post
All this "Hair on Fire" - Armageddon talk is ludicrous.

Nobody cares about the potential Tariffs .....

We KNOW that the American Citizens don't care a bit about these proposed Tariffs.
We KNOW that the Unions don't care about bit about these proposed Tariffs.
We KNOW that the Large Business Community doesn't care a bit about these proposed Tariffs.
We KNOW that the Small Business Community doesn't care a bit about these proposed Tariffs.
We KNOW that the CongressCritters in both Parties don't care a bit about these proposed Tariffs.

We also KNOW that ALL of the above don't care a bit about the Invasion on our Southern Border, the Child Trafficking, the Humanitarian Crisis, the disease coming into the USA or the immense cost to Taxpayers. There appears to be ONLY the President and the Border Patrol/ICE that Care.

How do we KNOW all of this???

Simple ...... all of the above are sitting on their hands and whining instead of burning up the phones and forcing the Lazy CongressCritters to pass reforms to STOP all of this.

Enough already!
Big words! Let's talk again in 6 months to a year if this trade war continues to expand. :-)
 
Old 06-07-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ambient View Post
Really, keep going far enough with these tariff wars and see where this ends up. It's frankly only good for Trump opponents when he shoots himself in a foot badly enough, but it will hurt a lot of his supporters in the process.

Take this far enough, and it will squeeze people. And when that happens, I bet you people will vote on their pocketbooks at the end of the day and not on some sense of patriotic duty to support Trump's isolationism against the rest of the planet.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...080000425.html
Wait, I thought the middle class didn't get a tax cut, only billionaires? That's what you folks have been crying about since 2017!

Now you complain about tariff's wiping out tax cuts you folks claim were never realized? You have a MAJOR credibility problem here.

Regardless, an increase in gas prices could wipe out that tax cuts too. But since Democrats can't blame Trump for OPEC's actions, they look to other excuses to push their anti-Trump hatred.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 02:08 PM
 
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I don't think the tariffs have cost me one penny.
I got an unscheduled big raise this week. CEO says it's because of the local wage escalation from all the new furniture manufacturing jobs that resulted from the tarriffs.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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The only people that have any power to change things are the president and congress/senate. The others can complain but they canít change any policy.

Consumers will care when the prices go up but they are powerless. The standard of living in the us keeps falling but people are too busy trying to pay their bills to contact the crooks that represent them.

Well if the republican held senate wonít vote against their master because they know they will lose the next election, there is not much that the house or democrats can do.

Make no mistake those who vote against the president will be primaried out and the president will harrass them on twitter until they lose their seat.

It doesnít matter how awful, unethical or stupid the presidentís actions are. His party will never vote against them because it is career suicide
Your entire post is one gigantic fallacy. You say consumers are powerless, yet those consumers are voters. When can we expect these voters to contact Nancy Pelosi to tackle the umpteen major issues in this country instead of playing safe, anti-Trump politics? Nothing will get changed because Democrats' only plan is to over promise, under-deliver, and to grandstand against Trump. Guaranteed, if Pelosi put forth an infrastructure bill without poison pills....an immigration reform bill without poison pills....etc., Donald Trump would sign it. But Democrats are incapable of that. They do stupid shiite like put abortion funding language in a highway funding bill.

Democrats have ZERO intent to move this country forward. They are too busy playing anti-Trump politics to care about you or anyone else.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 02:14 PM
 
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I got an unscheduled big raise this week. CEO says it's because of the local wage escalation from all the new furniture manufacturing jobs that resulted from the tarriffs.
Nice joke.
 
Old 06-07-2019, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Originally Posted by armourereric View Post
I got an unscheduled big raise this week. CEO says it's because of the local wage escalation from all the new furniture manufacturing jobs that resulted from the tarriffs.
Can't be true. Dem bots posting on CD told me us so. You actually got a pay cut and just didn't notice.
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