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Old 06-09-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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Collectivism is just a fancy word for slavery. The people don't just decide what to do collectively and force others at gunpoint to follow.

Each individual makes the decision, and then they band together and do it together voluntarily.

Roads, libraries and schools long existed before the government - they weren't built by the government until they were confiscated at gunpoint. Besides these three, can you name one more that is forced upon us?

Internet? Food? Houses? Medicines? What you named is just a rare exception list. All the rest of them are provided by PRIVATE individuals.
Without government, people are free. Free to enslave each other.
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:15 PM
 
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Without government, people are free. Free to enslave each other.
Nobody can enslave others without the help from the government.

Name one case, please.
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:20 PM
 
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The ones who are afraid are the ones stockpiling firearms. I don`t own any.
People exercising their right to the 2nd amendment are afraid? ROFL....sure thing. The ban gunning nuts are the ones afraid,they are afraid of an armed populace being able to stop their destruction of the west which is exactly why they want guns banned.
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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Nobody can enslave others without the help from the government.

Name one case, please.
Anyone who is armed can enslave anyone who isn’t armed, unless there is a government to prevent it.

If you doubt it, go to any “failed state” without a gun and see how long it takes for you to be sold into human trafficking.

Unfortunately, for most of human history, government WAS the “person who is armed.” Governments that prevent oppression are a radical new phenomenon.
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:38 PM
 
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Anyone who is armed can enslave anyone who isn’t armed, unless there is a government to prevent it.

If you doubt it, go to any “failed state” without a gun and see how long it takes for you to be sold into human trafficking.

Unfortunately, for most of human history, government WAS the “person who is armed.” Governments that prevent oppression are a radical new phenomenon.
Nonsense.

If the said armed person tries that, he would be put in prison or shot.
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Old 06-09-2019, 05:38 PM
 
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Nobody can enslave others without the help from the government.

Name one case, please.

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Nonsense.

If the said armed person tries that, he would be put in prison or shot.
Not without Government!
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Old 06-09-2019, 05:49 PM
 
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Not without Government!
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Nobody can enslave others without the help of the government.
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Old 06-09-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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Anyone who thinks a party can abolish an amendment or the entire Constitution must have found a way to avoid 9th grade Civics class.
You ignore it. Been done infinitum by tyrants on all continents.
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Old 06-09-2019, 06:06 PM
 
Location: California
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I don't know. It will depend on who our rich and corporate overlords are at the time. Their wishes will be implemented and the negative fallout will be the lefts problem to spin into "...and that's a GOOD thing". Media will be happy to help since they will get full funding to write what they are told and get paid handsomely for it. Politicians will enrich themselves enough to be distracted away from how it impacts everyone else. Nobody will care about the USA as a country, it will be a free for all.
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Old 06-09-2019, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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Nonsense.

If the said armed person tries that, he would be put in prison or shot.
The prison is run by...
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