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Old 06-08-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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This is great news! A majority of Americans want this. A healthy populace is a more productive one.

I think this line makes it even more attractive <emphasis added>:

"...the cumulative savings for the first decade operating under Medicare for All would be $5.1 trillion, equal to 2.1 percent of cumulative GDP, without accounting for broader macroeconomic benefits such as increased productivity, greater income equality, and net job creation through lower operating costs for small- and medium-sized businesses..."
Indeed.

Funny thing is, people were also calling Medicare over age 65 "radical" back when LBJ passed it. Now, it's "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!"
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Old 06-08-2019, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Which is....a lack of affordable healthcare or health insurance. Many have found they have no choice but to resort to Medicaid of SSDI in order to provided medical care for their family.
The big government you love makes it unaffordable. But yea Big Pharm, right?
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Old 06-08-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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In an era where Medicare-for-All is now overwhelmingly popular amongst the general populace, a new study shows that the US would see significant savings from implementing such a system, in addition to improving the economy and well-being/mental health.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...us-51-trillion
"In an era where Medicare-for-All is now overwhelmingly popular amongst the general populace"

Don't believe everything you read or hear.

Your cite is just 1 liberal professor giving his opinion. One that has spent most of is career being a professor who deal in "theory" and NO REAL experience in the field.


And you know what the say about opinions, everyone has one.
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Old 06-08-2019, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Austin
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In an era where Medicare-for-All is now overwhelmingly popular amongst the general populace, a new study shows that the US would see significant savings from implementing such a system, in addition to improving the economy and well-being/mental health.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...us-51-trillion

Medicare for all was not "overwhelmingly popular" when poll participants were told medicare for all would:

eliminate private health insurance companies. 37% supported this.
require most americans to pay more taxes. 37% supported this.

https://www.kff.org/health-reform/po...-january-2019/

the study referenced in the article posted in the OP supporting medicare for all reflects proposed new taxes for taxpayers earning more than 65,000 a year (top 20% income earners), a national sales tax, elimination of employer provided insurance, a wealth tax, etc. it ain't free.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:00 AM
 
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Medicare for all was not "overwhelmingly popular" when poll participants were told medicare for all would:

eliminate private health insurance health companies. 37% supported this.
require most americans to pay more taxes. 37% supported this.

https://www.kff.org/health-reform/po...-january-2019/

the study referenced in the article posted in the OP supporting medicare for all reflects proposed new taxes for taxpayers earning more than 65,000 a year (top 20% income earners), a national sales tax, elimination of employer provided insurance, a wealth tax, etc. it ain't free.
No one that's currently advocating for Medicare-for-All is saying it's free.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:01 AM
 
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No one that's currently advocating for Medicare-for-All is saying it's free.
So how much is it?
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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Most perplexing thing about big government supporters is that they would prefer the making things up and reacting to symptoms instead of truthfully trying to address the cause of our problems.
The cause of our problems is the supporting of deadbeats.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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Do most people realize that only part A is free. You still to pay for Part B and D plus a supplement for full coverage.
"Do most people realize that only part A is free."

Some people believe part A is "free'", is even though payment for it is taken out of every pay check you get, Just like Social Security.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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So how much is it?
According to a study that was conducted by the Koch Brothers, it will cost $32 Trillion, but save $2 Trillion.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/32-t...ry?id=56938226
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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Indeed.

Funny thing is, people were also calling Medicare over age 65 "radical" back when LBJ passed it. Now, it's "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!"
I remember seeing that sign. It's kinda like people supporting the ACA but at the same time wanting to eliminate Obamacare. The lack of understanding is unbelievable. You can't make this s up.
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